From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1754: 23.0.60; tool-bar is shown with tool-bar-mode off Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:57:11 +0100 Message-ID: <4961BD57.9020202@gmx.at> References: <005301c96b95$547ae890$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <495CE033.70808@gmx.at> <008801c96c57$dcbd5540$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <495DC7A2.6000106@gmx.at> <495F3A4B.2070802@gmx.at> Reply-To: martin rudalics , 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231143824 13361 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2009 08:23:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 08:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 05 09:24:54 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LJklX-0001bg-Ph for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:24:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34652 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJkkI-0005So-1O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:23:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJkkC-0005QL-OW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:23:28 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LJkkB-0005P8-EC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:23:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44432 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LJkkB-0005P5-3W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:23:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:48475) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LJkkA-0005uI-N3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:23:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LJkk9-0000fa-QU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:23:26 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n058NN6d002677; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 00:23:24 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n05855BN030618; Mon, 5 Jan 2009 00:05:05 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: martin rudalics Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:05:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1754 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1754-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1754.123114235128480 (code B ref 1754); Mon, 05 Jan 2009 08:05:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1754) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 5 Jan 2009 07:59:11 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with SMTP id n057x6Sn028474 for <1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 4 Jan 2009 23:59:08 -0800 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 05 Jan 2009 07:59:01 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-40-3.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.40.3]) [62.47.40.3] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 05 Jan 2009 08:59:01 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+tFeccKACteU9l9syQ0ds4+beSsoAWZe9FV8ig0l lzlcUAU2yIGlh4 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.74 X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:23:28 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:23783 Archived-At: >> If you mean that `modify-all-frames-parameters' should not change >> `initial-frame-alist' because the "right" value will be eventually found >> when scanning `default-frame-alist', you're maybe right. > > Yes, I think that's what I mean. > >> OTOH a user may have set `initial-frame-alist' to contain >> a tool-bar-lines entry and wants to explicitly turn off >> `tool-bar-mode' for the initial frame. Consider Drew's example with >> "initial" replacing "default". > > But modify-all-frames-parameters beings by removing any such setting in > initial-frame-alist anyway, so it seems this case still doesn't justify > adding the setting to initial-frame-alist. On the one hand you mean that `modify-all-frames-parameters' should not change `initial-frame-alist' on the other you mean it should remove such setting in `initial-frame-alist' anyway? You leave me confused. martin