From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1754: 23.0.60; tool-bar is shown with tool-bar-mode off Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:57:03 +0800 Message-ID: <495E010F.6080504@gnu.org> References: <877i5f914m.fsf@cyd.mit.edu><006101c96bd0$387ac7b0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <87zlibtsna.fsf@cyd.mit.edu><008701c96c57$dc010a20$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com><495D5972.3070509@gnu.org> <009301c96c77$6eb12160$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <009401c96c81$af560140$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Jason Rumney , 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1230899028 12788 80.91.229.12 (2 Jan 2009 12:23:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Chong Yidong' , 1754@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 02 13:24:57 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LIj5B-000439-Iw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:24:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34206 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LIj3w-0004dC-Ab for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:23:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LIj3r-0004b4-Ew for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:23:31 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LIj3p-0004YO-JZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:23:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47670 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LIj3p-0004Y8-D9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:23:29 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:45594) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LIj3o-0001Jr-T0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:23:29 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n02CNMfB001982; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 04:23:23 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n02C55dY029804; Fri, 2 Jan 2009 04:05:05 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Jason Rumney Original-Sender: Jason Rumney Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:05:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1754 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1754-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1754.123089745727705 (code B ref 1754); Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:05:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1754) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 2 Jan 2009 11:57:37 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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([118.101.235.115]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i9sm13210331tid.25.2009.01.02.03.57.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 02 Jan 2009 03:57:31 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) In-Reply-To: <009401c96c81$af560140$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 07:23:30 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:23687 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: > I'm afraid it is I who was mistaken about this, not you. From the doc, I had the > impression that `pop-up-frame-alist' did not apply to all new frames opened, > that it applied only to special, "pop-up" frames. I've never used > `pop-up-frame-alist'. > I can see why you get that impression from the doc string of pop-up-frame-alist. The second line is confusing - both in that the mentioned buffers are not pop-up-frames by default, and that if pop-up-frames is enabled, then there is no difference between the mentioned buffers and any other buffer that displays in a pop-up frame. The doc string should just say that pop-up-frame-alist applies to pop-up-frames, which should also be obvious from the name. Trying to explain pop-up-frames there (which I assume is what the intention of the second line is) just confuses things.