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([118.101.235.115]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u8sm8887165tia.28.2009.01.01.15.54.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:54:17 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) In-Reply-To: <008601c96c57$d49be1b0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 19:03:25 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:23670 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: > Absolutely not. The mode should affect all existing and future frames. That's > always been the case, and it is how other, similar modes, such as > `menu-bar-mode', work. > If that was the case, you would not be able to have minibuffer, ediff and speedbar frames without menu or toolbar if you were displaying those in other frames. > It has never been the case that some frame alist overrides the current mode > value. > It always has been the case for me.