> (tool-bar-mode -1) [...] > (setq default-frame-alist > (append (list (cons 'tool-bar-lines 1)) > default-frame-alist)) Inherently, you're painting yourself into a corner by simultaneously demanding and rejecting toolbars. Moreover, that last assignment gets you a second entry for `tool-bar-lines' in `default-frame-alist' (and we have received _lots_ of mails from you complaining about such duplicate entries before). However, you do _not_ set `initial-frame-alist' simultaneously, so you won't get a toolbar for the first frame which is the correct behavior since you have toggled tool-bar-mode off before and only that counts for the initial frame (unless you explicitly override it). Since `default-frame-alist' contains a tool-bar-lines entry you will get a toolbar for future frames which is correct as well. That said, the behavior of Emacs _is_ wrong because it should not say that `tool-bar-mode' is on when there are no toolbars. The reason is that `tool-bar-mode' does (if tool-bar-mode (progn (dolist (frame (frame-list)) (if (display-graphic-p frame) (set-frame-parameter frame 'tool-bar-lines 1))) (if (= 1 (length (default-value 'tool-bar-map))) ; not yet setup (tool-bar-setup))) (modify-all-frames-parameters (list (cons 'tool-bar-lines 0))))) so you can easily see that for turning `tool-bar-mode' off, default and initial frame parameters are set. For turning it on, only the parameters of the existing frames are set and _no_ default or initial parameters. Since the `display-graphic-p' test is not useful anyway, I propose the attached patch. Yours truly, martin.