From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12922: 24.3.50; `make-pointer-invisible' don't seem to work Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:46:45 -0800 Message-ID: <477A031D55CA4053A5030621C75BF681@us.oracle.com> References: <838v9z0w09.fsf@gnu.org><3FD78C07B7124BC5B3A4C02F5B26EE63@us.oracle.com><83y5hyzviy.fsf@gnu.org><83fw46zkcr.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353275290 26014 80.91.229.3 (18 Nov 2012 21:48:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:48:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12922@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Dani Moncayo'" , "'Eli Zaretskii'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 18 22:48:20 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TaCiy-0001TI-6j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:48:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54560 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaCio-0006aR-1b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:48:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37954) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaCij-0006ZJ-PT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:48:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaCig-0000Pc-NU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:48:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43329) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TaCig-0000PS-KM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:48:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaCjd-00005T-SX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:49:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12922 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12922-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12922.135327528332702 (code B ref 12922); Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:49:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12922) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2012 21:48:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53579 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaCig-0008VO-JJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:48:03 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:33924) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TaCid-0008Uw-C6 for 12922@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 16:48:00 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qAILkw7l013239 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:46:58 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qAILkvRw005359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:46:57 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt113.oracle.com (abhmt113.oracle.com [141.146.116.65]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qAILkux5024824; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 15:46:56 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:46:56 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac3F1LVbiEekSyRuRq2d7IXDk/KEPAAAHIwQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67143 Archived-At: > a bug in the documentation, i.e., the program's behavior is > the intended one, but the documentation doesn't > describes that behavior. And that is what happens here. > > Definitions aside, the fact is that currently, any user of the > MS-Windows port of Emacs will be confused when she reads about the > `make-pointer-invisible' variable and notice that the actual behavior > of the program does not match the documentation. If it is not possible to update the doc wrt specific platforms here and there, describing specific limitations per platform, perhaps it would at least be possible in some cases (like this one) to state that the feature (whatever it is - making the pointer invisible, for instance) "might not be available on some platforms". That would at least give readers a heads-up, so they do not completely wonder what's going on and whether (a) there is perhaps a product bug or (b) they are perhaps misreading the doc. Yes, such a weak caveat is true for nearly all features. But this is not something black-and-white, all-or-nothing. If such caveats are used judiciously, i.e., only in places where we in fact do not support a feature on some platform (especially a commonly used platform) and where we realize there might well be a chance for reader confusion, then I, for one, think they could be helpful.