From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Maxim Nikulin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48334: No elements in HTML manual pages Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 21:48:26 +0700 Message-ID: <476ffbc9-bd89-b9f1-9132-86b54ff8dded@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20106"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.1 To: 48334@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 10 16:49:17 2021 Return-path: <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org>) id 1lg7Dh-00055U-Mu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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[5.44.169.181]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id p9sm2270663lfa.296.2021.05.10.07.48.33 for <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 10 May 2021 07:48:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::135; envelope-from=m.a.nikulin@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x135.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:206165 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs/206165> HTML pages of Emacs manual, e.g. https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Motion.html do not have <title> element. Open page source in browser, inspector in browser developer tools, or just fetch the page using e.g. curl to see that metadata in <head> element are rather scarce. As a result, browser tab title is not informative. In the case of Firefox in can be "google.com/url?q=http..." due to intermediate redirection and a bug in Firefox https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/1401091 Even if Firefox had not this bug, node names instead of URLs it tab titles would provide better user experience. For the particular page, my expectation for <title> element content is something like - "30.2 Motion (Emacs Lisp)" - "(elisp) Motion" - "30.2 Motion" Texinfo manual is not affected, its pages contains reasonable <title>, e.g. https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/Generating-HTML.html I hope, it is enough to change some settings of HTML export for Emacs manuals to improve quality of generated pages. However I am not familiar with texinfo enough to provide instructions which options should be tuned. The reason why I use HTML format of Emacs manuals is that I have not enough experience with Emacs yet. So it easier to find particular sections using search engines that take into account relevance or even synonyms. Docstrings for Emacs functions and variables rarely have direct links to texinfo nodes from manuals that provides higher level overview or guide for related functionality. 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[5.44.169.188]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id h9sm1939279ljj.103.2021.10.05.07.14.05 for <48334@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Oct 2021 07:14:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Maxim Nikulin <M.A.Nikulin@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <476ffbc9-bd89-b9f1-9132-86b54ff8dded@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:216457 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs/216457> > HTML pages of Emacs manual, e.g. > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Motion.html > do not have <title> element. ... > Texinfo manual is not affected, its pages contains reasonable > <title>, e.g. > https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/Generating-HTML.html Emacs manual is generated by texi2html, texinfo and e.g. Org mode by makeinfo --html ... In the latter case pages have <title> element, in the former they do not (at least without some tuning). From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48334: No <title> elements in HTML manual pages Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2022 18:19:44 +0200 Message-ID: <87sfnjxza7.fsf@gnus.org> References: <476ffbc9-bd89-b9f1-9132-86b54ff8dded@gmail.com> <6f746a42-09eb-dffc-993f-a0ba3467aa08@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25110"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 48334@debbugs.gnu.org To: Maxim Nikulin <m.a.nikulin@gmail.com> Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 02 18:20:28 2022 Return-path: <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org>) id 1o7frA-0006IM-Ad for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) These manuals still seem to be missing <title>s. And texi2html has been superseded by texi2any, which should be adding <title> elements according to: https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/HTML-Customization-Variables.html Anybody know who's responsible for generating the HTML manuals? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48334: No <title> elements in HTML manual pages Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2022 20:02:26 +0300 Message-ID: <83ilofbg7x.fsf@gnu.org> References: <476ffbc9-bd89-b9f1-9132-86b54ff8dded@gmail.com> <6f746a42-09eb-dffc-993f-a0ba3467aa08@gmail.com> <87sfnjxza7.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20245"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 48334@debbugs.gnu.org, m.a.nikulin@gmail.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 02 19:03:12 2022 Return-path: <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org>) id 1o7gWV-00052g-VZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sat, 02 Jul 2022 13:02:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87sfnjxza7.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 02 Jul 2022 18:19:44 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:235938 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs/235938> > Cc: 48334@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> > Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2022 18:19:44 +0200 > > Maxim Nikulin <m.a.nikulin@gmail.com> writes: > > >> HTML pages of Emacs manual, e.g. > >> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Motion.html > >> do not have <title> element. > > ... > >> Texinfo manual is not affected, its pages contains reasonable > >> <title>, e.g. > >> https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/Generating-HTML.html > > > > Emacs manual is generated by texi2html, texinfo and e.g. Org mode by > > makeinfo --html ... > > In the latter case pages have <title> element, in the former they do > > not (at least without some tuning). > > (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved > at the time.) > > These manuals still seem to be missing <title>s. And texi2html has been > superseded by texi2any, which should be adding <title> elements > according to: > > https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/HTML-Customization-Variables.html > > Anybody know who's responsible for generating the HTML manuals? We are. See the instructions in admin/make-tarball.txt and the scripts admin/make-manuals and admin/upload-manuals. I don't remember if texi2any produces <title>, but the above scripts modify the HTML produced by texi2any, so what we eventually have is the result of those scripts. We could decide dropping admin/make-manuals, or at least the parts that modify the produced HTML, but presumably those parts were written for a reason. Unfortunately, I see no detailed documentation of the reasons for those changes, so it's hard to decide whether any of them are still valid, what with Texinfo's progress since the time those changes were coded. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48334: No <title> elements in HTML manual pages Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2022 14:16:27 +0200 Message-ID: <87fsjibdd0.fsf@gnus.org> References: <476ffbc9-bd89-b9f1-9132-86b54ff8dded@gmail.com> <6f746a42-09eb-dffc-993f-a0ba3467aa08@gmail.com> <87sfnjxza7.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilofbg7x.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39115"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 48334@debbugs.gnu.org, m.a.nikulin@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 03 14:17:27 2022 Return-path: <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org>) id 1o7yXX-0009uD-Ho for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:235985 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs/235985> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: >> > Emacs manual is generated by texi2html, texinfo and e.g. Org mode by >> > makeinfo --html ... >> > In the latter case pages have <title> element, in the former they do >> > not (at least without some tuning). [...] > We are. See the instructions in admin/make-tarball.txt and the > scripts admin/make-manuals and admin/upload-manuals. > > I don't remember if texi2any produces <title>, but the above scripts > modify the HTML produced by texi2any, so what we eventually have is > the result of those scripts. Hm... it looks like the manuals are produced with "makeinfo --html", though -- I can't see any usage of texi2html or texi2any there, but I may be missing something. > We could decide dropping admin/make-manuals, or at least the parts > that modify the produced HTML, but presumably those parts were written > for a reason. Unfortunately, I see no detailed documentation of the > reasons for those changes, so it's hard to decide whether any of them > are still valid, what with Texinfo's progress since the time those > changes were coded. Ah, it's this code: (defun manual-html-fix-headers () "Fix up HTML headers for the Emacs manual in the current buffer." (let ((texi5 (search-forward "<!DOCTYPE" nil t)) opoint) [...] (search-forward "<meta") (setq opoint (match-beginning 0)) (unless texi5 (search-forward "<!--") (goto-char (match-beginning 0)) (delete-region opoint (point)) (search-forward "<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Style") (setq opoint (match-beginning 0))) (search-forward "\n") (delete-region opoint (point)) So we delete the that makeinfo --html has created. Perhaps that's just a bug? I see that you adjusted this code in May... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48334: No <title> elements in HTML manual pages Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2022 16:13:20 +0300 Message-ID: <83o7y69w5r.fsf@gnu.org> References: <476ffbc9-bd89-b9f1-9132-86b54ff8dded@gmail.com> <6f746a42-09eb-dffc-993f-a0ba3467aa08@gmail.com> <87sfnjxza7.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilofbg7x.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsjibdd0.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23072"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 48334@debbugs.gnu.org, m.a.nikulin@gmail.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 03 15:14:11 2022 Return-path: <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org>) id 1o7zQR-0005mv-FX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sun, 03 Jul 2022 09:13:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87fsjibdd0.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 03 Jul 2022 14:16:27 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:235995 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs/235995> > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> > Cc: m.a.nikulin@gmail.com, 48334@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2022 14:16:27 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes: > > > I don't remember if texi2any produces <title>, but the above scripts > > modify the HTML produced by texi2any, so what we eventually have is > > the result of those scripts. > > Hm... it looks like the manuals are produced with "makeinfo --html", > though -- I can't see any usage of texi2html or texi2any there, but I > may be missing something. makeinfo is supposed to be a symlink to texi2any. > Ah, it's this code: > > (defun manual-html-fix-headers () > "Fix up HTML headers for the Emacs manual in the current buffer." > (let ((texi5 (search-forward "<!DOCTYPE" nil t)) > opoint) > > [...] > > (search-forward "<meta") > (setq opoint (match-beginning 0)) > (unless texi5 > (search-forward "<!--") > (goto-char (match-beginning 0)) > (delete-region opoint (point)) > (search-forward "<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Style") > (setq opoint (match-beginning 0))) > (search-forward "\n") > (delete-region opoint (point)) Yes. (But that's not the only editing we do, although the rest isn't relevant to , I think.) > So we delete the <title> that makeinfo --html has created. Perhaps > that's just a bug? It is definitely done on purpose, but I don't know what is the purpose of deleting <title> (and many other parts of the headers as well). > I see that you adjusted this code in May... I made changes there because someone reported a problem with reading the manuals on mobile devices, because we were deleting the line with '<meta name="viewport"...', which in latest Texinfo takes care of adjusting the viewport to the width of the device display. My changes were supposed to avoid deletion of this header (and a few others), but I don't think I kept <title>. I think the solution to this is for some HTML5 expert to look at our edits vs what Texinfo 6.8 produces, and tell which parts of the editing are needed (and why) and which aren't. I'm far from being that expert. Failing that, I think the only alternative is to see how the original Texinfo output looks in a browser, compare that with the edited manuals, and then decide which of the edits are really needed. One problem with that is that we'll probably have to require Texinfo 6.8 or later if we go that way, because maintaining compatibility with multiple Texinfo versions is really too much. Ideally, we should keep the edits to the absolute minimum. 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[5.44.169.188]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id g1-20020a0565123b8100b0047f8d7c08e4sm4750016lfv.166.2022.07.03.07.48.14 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Jul 2022 07:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <83o7y69w5r.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:236004 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs/236004> On 03/07/2022 20:13, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen >> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2022 14:16:27 +0200 >> (setq opoint (match-beginning 0))) >> (search-forward "\n") >> (delete-region opoint (point)) > > Yes. (But that's not the only editing we do, although the rest isn't > relevant to , I think.) Deleting of text till "<title>" should be a rather local change. Till May the region till "</head>" was removed. By the way, is there a reason why DC.title meta is set to gnu.org, not to the title of current node or at least the manual. I am not familiar with Dublin Core, but I expect it is rich enough to express both and gnu.org as well. 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Yes, indeed. > I made changes there because someone reported a problem with reading > the manuals on mobile devices, because we were deleting the line with > '<meta name="viewport"...', which in latest Texinfo takes care of > adjusting the viewport to the width of the device display. My changes > were supposed to avoid deletion of this header (and a few others), but > I don't think I kept <title>. I tried running the code now (and commented out the manual-html-fix-headers function), and I ended up with: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"> <html> <!-- Created by GNU Texinfo 6.8, https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/ --> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> <!-- This file describes the Emacs auth-source library. Copyright (C) 2008-2022 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.3 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, with the Front-Cover Texts being "A GNU Manual," and with the Back-Cover Texts as in (a) below. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License". (a) The FSF's Back-Cover Text is: "You have the freedom to copy and modify this GNU manual." --> <title>Emacs auth-source Library 0.3 This is with texi2any (GNU texinfo) 6.8. If I'm reading the code right, the delete-region here is just deleting that . It's probably different in every texinfo version, but altering the (search-forward "\n") to (search-forward "") should be safe in any case, so I'll go ahead and do that. > Failing that, I think the only alternative is to see how the original > Texinfo output looks in a browser, compare that with the edited > manuals, and then decide which of the edits are really needed. One > problem with that is that we'll probably have to require Texinfo 6.8 > or later if we go that way, because maintaining compatibility with > multiple Texinfo versions is really too much. Ideally, we should keep > the edits to the absolute minimum. I think altering the HTML in this way isn't idea. It'd be much better to just parse the HTML, alter the DOM (to remove/insert elements), and then write the DOM out to HTML again. That'd be a whole lot less brittle. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48334: No <title> elements in HTML manual pages Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2022 14:36:07 +0300 Message-ID: <83zghp85zs.fsf@gnu.org> References: <476ffbc9-bd89-b9f1-9132-86b54ff8dded@gmail.com> <6f746a42-09eb-dffc-993f-a0ba3467aa08@gmail.com> <87sfnjxza7.fsf@gnus.org> <83ilofbg7x.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsjibdd0.fsf@gnus.org> <83o7y69w5r.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfnh88gt.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19517"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 48334@debbugs.gnu.org, m.a.nikulin@gmail.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 04 13:41:24 2022 Return-path: <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org>) id 1o8KSC-0004tS-0l for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Mon, 04 Jul 2022 07:36:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87sfnh88gt.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 04 Jul 2022 12:42:42 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org> Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:236055 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs/236055> > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> > Cc: m.a.nikulin@gmail.com, 48334@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2022 12:42:42 +0200 > > I tried running the code now (and commented out the > manual-html-fix-headers function), and I ended up with: > > <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"> > <html> > <!-- Created by GNU Texinfo 6.8, https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/ --> > <head> > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"> > <!-- This file describes the Emacs auth-source library. > > Copyright (C) 2008-2022 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > > Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document > under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.3 or > any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no > Invariant Sections, with the Front-Cover Texts being "A GNU Manual," > and with the Back-Cover Texts as in (a) below. A copy of the license > is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License". > > (a) The FSF's Back-Cover Text is: "You have the freedom to copy and > modify this GNU manual." --> > <title>Emacs auth-source Library 0.3 > > This is with texi2any (GNU texinfo) 6.8. If I'm reading the code right, > the delete-region here is just deleting that . That's strange, because I remember testing the changes, and I also used Texinfo 6.8. Did you compare the produced HTML with what's on the Web site? That should show the differences clearly. Also, I think the title (and the file I worked mostly) is index.html -- did you look at that, or did you look at some other file? > > > Failing that, I think the only alternative is to see how the original > > > Texinfo output looks in a browser, compare that with the edited > > > manuals, and then decide which of the edits are really needed. One > > > problem with that is that we'll probably have to require Texinfo 6.8 > > > or later if we go that way, because maintaining compatibility with > > > multiple Texinfo versions is really too much. Ideally, we should keep > > > the edits to the absolute minimum. > > > > I think altering the HTML in this way isn't idea. It'd be much better > > to just parse the HTML, alter the DOM (to remove/insert elements), and > > then write the DOM out to HTML again. That'd be a whole lot less > > brittle. That's fine with me, but that, too, assumes someone who can understand the resulting DOM, and which of its parts we want to change and why. 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Did you compare the produced HTML with what's on > the Web site? That should show the differences clearly. Also, I > think the title (and the file I worked mostly) is index.html -- did > you look at that, or did you look at some other file? I looked at the auth-source mono version of the HTML mainly. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no