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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, dashteacup@insightbb.com
Subject: Re: View-quit in *Help* restores wrong window when	display-buffer-reuse-frames is t
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:01:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4717D7B2.5030608@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DNEMKBNJBGPAOPIJOOICMELAEAAA.drew.adams@oracle.com>

 > FWIW and IIUC, I am not in any of those 4 user groups, with any of the
 > expectations you assign to those groups - and I believe that I filed one of
 > the bugs you have been working on.
 >
 > I use non-nil `pop-up-frames', and both `pop-up-windows' and
 > `split-height-threshold' have the default values (t and 500).

OK.  The second group gets `pop-up-frames' non-nil, the values of
`pop-up-windows' and `split-height-threshold' are of no concern.

 > I have a
 > dedicated *Help* frame.

What is the semantics of a "dedicated frame"?

 > Because of `pop-up-frames', `display-buffer' uses another frame, but I do
 > sometimes switch to a different buffer in the same window. And I do
 > sometimes split a window, so my frames are not always `one-window-p'.

If you "dedicate" a frame to the Help buffer why do you want to switch
to a different buffer in that frame?  Why do you want to split that
frame's window?

 > If a new window or frame was popped up to display a view-mode buffer, then I
 > expect quitting to delete the window and, if one-window-p, delete the frame
 > too.

I already explained that by default Help buffers are not dedicated thus
`quit-window' won't necessarily delete the associated frame.  If people
want that we can change the behavior of view-mode but that would affect
all clients of view-mode.  Alternatively we could make help-windows
dedicated (if that helps).

Currently `view-remove-frame-by-deleting' has to be set to get the
effect you want.  We could make that non-nil by default.

 > FWIW, my own code takes care of the latter part, so it is enough for me if
 > the view-mode code simply does `quit-window'.
 >
 > If a new window or frame was not popped up to display the view-mode buffer,
 > that is, if I manually switched to it in an existing window, then I want
 > quitting that buffer/mode to restore the previous buffer that was in that
 > window.
 > Summary:
 >     if pop-up, then quit => delete the window/frame
 > if not pop-up, then quit => restore previous buffer for window

Suppose you (1) pop up a view-mode window, (2) display a non view-mode
buffer in that window, (3) display a view-mode buffer in that window,
and (4) quit view-mode.  Whatever `view-mode-exit' does now, you'll
complain.

 >>- Exiting view-mode should ideally (1) kill a window that
 >>  has been popped up for view-mode purposes and (2) show
 >>  the earlier contents of the window when it has been
 >>  usurpated by view-mode.
 >
 >
 > That would be good. In my case, #1 is what I expect for the *Help* buffer. I
 > have no problem with #2, assuming that it applies to buffers that were not
 > popped up in another window.

I wrote "ideally" and I had your usage pattern in mind.  But keep in
mind that killing a window doesn't necessarily imply killing its frame.

 > I haven't followed the current thread closely. If you have a Lisp-only patch
 > I can try, I will do that.

It's still the patch I sent you earlier.





  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-18 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <D64B7FD7-2C5F-4A87-8F0B-61EB47217262@insightbb.com>
2007-10-13 17:28 ` View-quit in *Help* restores wrong window when display-buffer-reuse-frames is t David Reitter
2007-10-14  8:42   ` martin rudalics
2007-10-17 20:58     ` Glenn Morris
2007-10-18  8:20       ` martin rudalics
2007-10-18 16:05         ` Drew Adams
2007-10-18 22:01           ` martin rudalics [this message]
2007-10-18 22:58             ` Drew Adams
2007-10-19  8:23               ` martin rudalics
2007-10-19 15:17                 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-20  9:45                   ` martin rudalics
2007-10-18 18:27         ` Glenn Morris
2007-10-18 22:03           ` martin rudalics
2007-10-18 23:44             ` Glenn Morris
2007-10-19  8:14               ` martin rudalics
2007-10-19 17:52                 ` Glenn Morris
2007-10-20  9:45                   ` martin rudalics
2007-10-23 23:30                     ` Glenn Morris
2007-10-24  6:32                       ` martin rudalics
2007-10-22 21:45     ` David Reitter
2007-11-29  9:05     ` David Reitter
2007-11-29 10:22       ` martin rudalics
     [not found]       ` <mailman.4303.1196332542.18990.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-12-01  8:01         ` David Reitter
2007-12-01  9:20           ` martin rudalics
2007-12-01 14:44             ` David Reitter

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