From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: latex mode, nexted subscripts are unreadable Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:34:51 +0100 Message-ID: <46E8698B.4040607@gnu.org> References: <200709121812.l8CICXf18901@f7.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189636518 32330 80.91.229.12 (12 Sep 2007 22:35:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, timh@insightful.com To: Karl Berry Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 13 00:35:15 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IVani-0006d6-7x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:35:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IVanh-0002LK-MF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:35:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IVane-0002Kl-SO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:35:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IVand-0002KE-8L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:35:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IVand-0002KB-4Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:35:09 -0400 Original-Received: from outmail1.freedom2surf.net ([194.106.33.237]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IVanc-0000k6-RE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (i-83-67-23-108.freedom2surf.net [83.67.23.108]) by outmail1.freedom2surf.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F93C509C5; Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:35:07 +0100 (BST) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) In-Reply-To: <200709121812.l8CICXf18901@f7.net> X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:16545 Archived-At: Karl Berry wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Thanks for the report. > > the nested suscripts are visible, but are still too tiny for comfort. > And they're not clearly visible - the gray letters end up with most of > the pixels light gray and a few of them darker. > > Unfortunately neither I nor Juri were able to reproduce this on our > (non-Windows) systems. > > Is there an Emacs developer who works on Windows who could look into this? > It depends on the font used and the antialiasing settings of the system. I imagine you could reproduce it on X in the emacs-unicode-2 branch with the xft font backend enabled, some tinkering with /etc/fonts/fonts.conf (or whatever the fontconfig configuration file is on your system) and Courier New or a similar poorly designed truetype font. I can only reproduce the problem with Courier New and "standard" antialiasing. Switching to Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, or changing to "Cleartype" sub-pixel antialiasing (on and LCD screen) both make the problem disappear.