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[188.150.171.209]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d7-20020ac25ec7000000b004949a8df775sm414472lfq.33.2022.09.30.13.12.25 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 30 Sep 2022 13:12:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <877d1l55rn.fsf@gnus.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:244061 Archived-At: 30 sep. 2022 kl. 15.52 skrev Lars Ingebrigtsen : > (string 4194176) > =3D> "\200" > "\x80" > =3D> "\200" >=20 > which are kinda equal in some ways, and not in other ways. And (string 128) =3D> "\200" but painted in a different colour so that the alert reader suspects that = something odd is going on... (What about printing it as "\u0080" instead? Only affects the C1 = controls...) > I think A makes the most intuitive sense, somehow. But perhaps my > intuition is off. Can't say my intuition is any more reliable. On the other hand, = intuition says that counter-intuitive solutions are very attractive, but = I think it's just trying to confuse us.