From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8891: 23.3; save-buffer messages about writing files that may not be written Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 16:36:02 -0400 Message-ID: <45DE9080-191C-45FA-993D-ADEEF2435BCF@boostpro.com> References: <87hb724vts.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87aacuuene.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309811849 14212 80.91.229.12 (4 Jul 2011 20:37:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 20:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , "8891@debbugs.gnu.org" <8891@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 04 22:37:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdptU-0002yY-LC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 22:37:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35455 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdptT-0005ak-Rw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:37:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36418) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QdptC-0005ab-Du for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:37:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qdpt8-0008Tx-Kk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:37:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37852) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qdpt8-0008Tt-JE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:37:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qdpt8-0007vD-4M; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:37:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Dave Abrahams Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 20:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8891 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8891-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8891.130981177530381 (code B ref 8891); Mon, 04 Jul 2011 20:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8891) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jul 2011 20:36:15 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdpsN-0007ty-1u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:36:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com ([209.85.216.44]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdpsK-0007tm-Kl for 8891@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:36:13 -0400 Original-Received: by qwc23 with SMTP id 23so2674837qwc.3 for <8891@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.131.32 with SMTP id v32mr4900951qcs.35.1309811767102; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.188.114] (207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com [207.172.223.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t21sm5006657qcs.26.2011.07.04.13.36.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Jul 2011 13:36:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87aacuuene.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 16:37:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:47992 Archived-At: On Jul 4, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Chong Tiding wrote: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >=20 >>> I don't think it's worth changing. >>=20 >> It would be a very minor change -- it would just be moving a `message' >> down into `basic-save-buffer-2' from `save-buffer', I think. >=20 > The implications are not obvious. One good thing about emitting the > "saving" message early is that if any of the intermediate steps take a > long time, at least the user is informed about what Emacs is working on. >=20 > Postphoning the "saving" message eliminates that benefit, for the very > minor benefit of handling a corner case (a custom write-file-functions > entry) a tiny bit better. FWIW I think I agree with you. I work around it by advising save-buffer; may= be that's for the best.=20 -- BoostPro Computing * http://boostpro.com [Sent from coveted but awkward mobile device]=