From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "ISHIKAWA,chiaki" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#39413: 26.2; Emacs gets hung Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 16:04:40 +0900 Message-ID: <437d3e27-6bf8-a34f-29b2-3219492ccfc1@yk.rim.or.jp> References: <85r1ynam0x.fsf@gmail.com> <44e850a0-c8dc-4aec-5706-c52db33697a1@ubin.jp> <119c5df5-080e-c45b-6498-2a2bc0f8273b@yk.rim.or.jp> <83lfme232a.fsf@gnu.org> <0b9cd846-b9f5-8351-5f45-5614bbc644c0@ubin.jp> <87sgfojjmm.fsf@gmail.com> <87fsvhwacb.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnosdwyt.fsf@gnu.org> <277eef17-0241-7245-a801-dc3707c23e5b@yk.rim.or.jp> <838s17dtpa.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9458vwe.fsf@gnu.org> <87tuijw93h.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilxuk8ri.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3012"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.14.0 Cc: chiaki.ishikawa@ubin.jp, 39413@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@gmail.com To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 19 09:05:31 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mcjBj-0000bp-Qv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 09:05:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42832 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcjBi-0003B9-N4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 03:05:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50622) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcjBH-0003Ac-I4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 03:05:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37685) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mcjBG-0007MO-9A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 03:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcjBG-0000JS-2r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 03:05:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "ISHIKAWA,chiaki" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 07:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 39413 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo notabug unreproducible Original-Received: via spool by 39413-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B39413.16346270871178 (code B ref 39413); Tue, 19 Oct 2021 07:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 39413) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2021 07:04:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49231 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcjB0-0000Iw-OA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 03:04:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail01.siriuscloud.jp ([219.118.72.1]:38551) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mcjAx-0000Ij-HR for 39413@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 03:04:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.77] (M106073032161.v4.enabler.ne.jp [106.73.32.161]) (Authenticated sender: ishikawa@yk.rim.or.jp) by access01.SiriusCloud.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4HYPr84mJPz35v2LV; Tue, 19 Oct 2021 16:04:40 +0900 (JST) Authentication-Results: access01.SiriusCloud.jp; dkim=none; dkim-atps=neutral In-Reply-To: <87ilxuk8ri.fsf@gnus.org> Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:217545 Archived-At: On 2021/10/18 18:00, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> This was a month ago -- have you made any further progress? I think it >> really sounds like the OS (the client or the host) isn't giving any >> resources to Emacs (i.e., the OS is swapping or something like that), so >> that is isn't an Emacs issue at all. > This was a month ago and there was no response, so I'm assuming that > this analysis is correct, and I'm closing this bug report. If there's > anything more to do here, please respond to the debbugs address and > we'll reopen. > Thanks. I have observed a few hungs ( a minute or two) and still could not figure out where the problem is. I still have a feeling that the memory allocator in the last few years may not be great for really large amount of short string allocations (to accommodate the output from thunderbird compilation/build process within eshell buffer, and then releasing them altogether at once (via erase-buffer to clear the shell interaction in the buffer, or deleting the buffer itself.). This began happening a few years ago in one version of Emacs. But for now, I can't make reasonable progress. (All I see while I insert a debug break point is call to gc sweep mark process and that may not really reflect the deep/detailed cause. Once I find a smoking gun, I will reopen it. (It could be even a virtualbox issue on AMD CPU if I stretch my imagination although we would have heard something about the large memory process on AMD CPU by now.) Thank you again for your attention on this matter. Chiaki