From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26459: 26.0.50; loaddefs.el is regenerated after each "git pull" Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:37:50 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <41351891-925d-a2a7-0a69-630048154c05@cs.ucla.edu> References: <83k26qj9av.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1492033094 13290 195.159.176.226 (12 Apr 2017 21:38:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 21:38:14 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 To: Eli Zaretskii , 26459@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 12 23:38:08 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cyPxo-0003KD-Ee for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 23:38:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46362 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cyPxu-0004vn-FL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:38:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49826) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cyPxj-0004vV-Bd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:38:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cyPxi-0007Em-Jo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:38:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:46644) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cyPxi-0007Ec-GR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:38:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cyPxi-0006iA-1m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:38:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 21:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26459 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 26459-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26459.149203308125791 (code B ref 26459); Wed, 12 Apr 2017 21:38:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 26459) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2017 21:38:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44843 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cyPxg-0006hv-Sg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:38:01 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:46754) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cyPxe-0006hh-Hz for 26459@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 17:37:59 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4720B160238; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id ZLH5fZNdFnVy; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 948DA160254; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:37:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 2YvGhiZoBt77; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:37:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D04E160238; Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:37:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83k26qj9av.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:131523 Archived-At: On 04/12/2017 01:54 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Paul, could you please explain why would > it be a bad idea to remove the "phony" status from loaddefs.el? That would cause loaddefs.el to not be generated sometimes when it should be. loaddefs.el depends not only on $(LOADDEFS) (its explicit dependencies), but also on all the other *.el files that have an autoload directive. I don't see how the problem you mention is one that d703a4d introduced, as previously loaddefs.el was generated as a side effect of the 'autoloads' rule, which was already phony. That being said, we could do a better job of dependency checking here, so that loaddefs.el is not built so often. I'll see if I can think of something.