From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25076: 24.5; Enhancement request: Make `archive-mode' more Dired like (sorting etc.) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:14:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <411373d3-f941-492c-ac17-8d1786ed7c58@default> References: <20161201195707.GA15995@breton.holly.idiocy.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480623315 14640 195.159.176.226 (1 Dec 2016 20:15:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2016 20:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 25076@debbugs.gnu.org To: Alan Third Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 01 21:15:08 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCXl6-0002g4-Ec for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 21:15:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58715 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCXlA-0006Ug-C1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 15:15:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37597) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCXl4-0006SW-7h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 15:15:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCXl0-0002LW-5z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 15:15:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:33725) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cCXl0-0002LL-2f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 15:15:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCXkz-0002w2-Qd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 15:15:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2016 20:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25076 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 25076-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25076.148062328511243 (code B ref 25076); Thu, 01 Dec 2016 20:15:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 25076) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2016 20:14:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49124 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCXkj-0002vH-40 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 15:14:45 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:49303) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cCXki-0002v4-6M for 25076@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Dec 2016 15:14:44 -0500 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id uB1KEbIg026895 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 1 Dec 2016 20:14:38 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.14.4) with ESMTP id uB1KEahN018955 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 1 Dec 2016 20:14:37 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0008.oracle.com (abhmp0008.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id uB1KEavL014081; Thu, 1 Dec 2016 20:14:36 GMT In-Reply-To: <20161201195707.GA15995@breton.holly.idiocy.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:126368 Archived-At: > > Subject line says it all. `archive-mode' still seems pretty > > rudimentary. It would be good to at least be able to sort the > > lines by file name etc. >=20 > I=E2=80=99m wondering if it wouldn=E2=80=99t be smarter to actually use d= ired to > access archives, like how we can use dired to access remote > directories through tramp. >=20 > I expect this is probably a much bigger/harder job than I imagine, > but what would be required? Just a function that could produce ls style > output for archives? I can't speak to that question. I suggest that you file a separate enhancement request for it. If it turns out that it is trivial then the two bugs can be merged - I don't have any objection to being able to use Dired (completely) for archives. But no, it is not just a question of producing an ls-style listing. The various Dired operations available currently expect a file as target.