From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19423: 25.0.50; incompatible change to `make-obsolete' - added 3rd arg should be optional Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 11:01:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <406a2673-1f3d-4adb-8e8e-e7705782fb2f@default> References: <867fxkdecx.fsf@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419188553 27867 80.91.229.3 (21 Dec 2014 19:02:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19423-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 21 20:02:26 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2llo-0007dN-2m for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 20:02:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38091 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2lln-00077m-AF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 14:02:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34450) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2llb-00076S-KJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 14:02:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2llS-0001r3-TY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 14:02:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44666) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2llS-0001qz-Q6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 14:02:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2llS-0004un-BX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 14:02:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19423 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19423-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D19423.141918847018824 (code D ref 19423); Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:02:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19423-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2014 19:01:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54032 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2lkb-0004tX-Ow for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 14:01:09 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:39956) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2lka-0004tQ-9f for 19423-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 14:01:08 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id sBLJ16gX010062 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:01:07 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.5) with ESMTP id sBLJ16WY018079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:01:06 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sBLJ15dT023237; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 19:01:05 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:97651 Archived-At: > > > In Emacs 23 someone unwisely changed it to mandatory, an > > > incompatible change that gratuitously breaks code that could > > > be used with older Emacs releases. Pain for no real gain. > > > > You should look at the code sometimes. >=20 > You should look at the byte-compiler warning that the user sees. > It tells her that only 2 args are present but 3 are *required*. >=20 > > The change is very much compatible: `make-obsolete' can still be > > called with only two arguments without error. The third one is > > only mandatory in the advertised calling convention. >=20 > See above. The byte-compiler tells you that it is mandatory. >=20 > > Even if it wasn't, it would be too late to fix the "problem": it > > wouldn't work in 23 and 24 anyway. >=20 > No, but it would work for Emacs 25, and releases prior to 23. >=20 > There is no good reason *not* to fix it, is there? Oh, I see that you already closed it. What a shame.