From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5950: defvaralias after defvar should be warned in runtime Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:51:00 -0400 Message-ID: <3keicu1h3v.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <4BC6A096.8030801@yahoo.co.jp> <87r5gu34ag.wl%irieshinsuke@yahoo.co.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284610256 32282 80.91.229.12 (16 Sep 2010 04:10:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 04:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 5950@debbugs.gnu.org To: IRIE Shinsuke Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 16 06:10:55 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ow5oF-0007od-3Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:10:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35018 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ow5oE-0002Gh-7c for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:10:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33658 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ow5o2-0002EV-Fg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:10:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ow5nz-0006FG-Fz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:10:42 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55337) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ow5nz-0006FA-Bk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Sep 2010 00:10:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ow5T4-0008D3-8k; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:49:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5950 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 5950-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5950.128460890731547 (code B ref 5950); Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:49:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5950) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2010 03:48:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ow5SV-0008Cm-4T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:48:27 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ow5SS-0008Cg-Mm for 5950@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:48:25 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ow5Uz-0006Ym-3u; Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:51:01 -0400 X-Spook: encryption event security Firewalls computer terrorism X-Ran: _s%JdVWYpu9O~G+0@6e.a->YB&XX&9OxK4o\&jQSsO/%'DeEMBymhE|-Q>cs`AUW??x;f{ X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <87r5gu34ag.wl%irieshinsuke@yahoo.co.jp> (IRIE Shinsuke's message of "Thu\, 16 Sep 2010 09\:44\:55 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:49:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:40196 Archived-At: IRIE Shinsuke wrote: > I think the byte-hunk-handler should be put to `defvaralias' rather than > `define-obsolete-variable-alias'. `defvaralias' is a primitive function > which causes the problem in `define-obsolete-variable-alias' macro. The issue _is_ with defvaralias, but it's only a problem for user options, things that might be set in .emacs before the associated alias definition is evaluated. It's hard to see why there should be non-obsolete aliases to user options, it just causes confusion. I think there would be false positives if the warning was associated with defvaralias, which is mostly used with non-user-options, I would think. The last time a similar issue came up, Stefan preferred that only define-obsolete-variable-alias be changed; see http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=4706#21