From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.mail.mh-e.devel Subject: bug#14384: mh-e non-standard names for defcustom etc Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 21:49:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3ka9o2jnf1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368237001 3072 80.91.229.3 (11 May 2013 01:50:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 01:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net To: 14384@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 11 03:49:59 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uaywd-0007PT-Am for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 May 2013 03:49:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38098 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Uaywc-0003If-QY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 May 2013 21:49:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59540) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaywY-0003IO-Vi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 May 2013 21:49:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaywX-0003Dj-Vo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 May 2013 21:49:50 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:60165) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaywX-0003Df-SQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 May 2013 21:49:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Uaywk-0004wF-IV; Fri, 10 May 2013 21:50:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 01:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 14384 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-Xcc: mh-e-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.136823699618953 (code B ref -1); Sat, 11 May 2013 01:50:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2013 01:49:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36040 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Uaywc-0004vd-R2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 May 2013 21:49:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:43662) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Uaywa-0004vU-2Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 May 2013 21:49:53 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UaywM-0002ai-7R; Fri, 10 May 2013 21:49:38 -0400 X-Spook: Gazprom spy bce infowar ASIO smuggle underground AFSPC X-Ran: {&.tMp+Rl03Jyq-f05j;zd{>z-(x^O9t#f5'/6#r"-V+p"oR"`;ERS/SG9d3~_,bKC*/C1 X-Hue: blue X-Attribution: GM User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:74149 gmane.mail.mh-e.devel:13590 Archived-At: Package: emacs Version: 24.3 emacs -Q M-x customize-group RET mh TAB [no match] Ie, none of the mh customization groups are visible to the customize interface. This is because you use non-standard macros defgroup-mh, defcustom-mh etc. Because of this, custom-make-dependencies fails to add any mh-e entries to cus-load.el. We can paper over this in the Emacs lisp/Makefile by simply loading mh-e/mh-e when running custom-make-dependencies. It would be simpler if mh-e used standard macros though. Are the -mh versions still needed? "This macro is used by Emacs versions that lack the :package-version keyword, introduced in Emacs 22." Do you still want to support people taking the latest mh-e and running it on Emacs older than 22.1 (released 2007)? I see this came up before. http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=19664.1182361165%40juniper.net&forum_name=mh-e-devel