From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64102: 28.2; fails to find pathname with a sub dir as symlink and with parent dir ('..') Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 11:03:59 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <3e45fafc-a73f-b6e7-de91-527c64308bd3@cs.ucla.edu> References: <83352rubii.fsf@gnu.org> <83352pp2vv.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20636"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cc: jacob@teamconnectusa.com, 64102@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 18 20:05:25 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qAwmC-0005BY-QD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 20:05:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAwlt-0002AH-V9; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 14:05:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAwlr-00029t-0I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 14:05:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qAwlq-0007Zz-Mg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 14:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qAwlp-00034g-T4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 14:05:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 18:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64102 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64102-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64102.168711144811753 (code B ref 64102); Sun, 18 Jun 2023 18:05:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64102) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jun 2023 18:04:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54934 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qAwky-00033V-GV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 14:04:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.66]:42502) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qAwkw-000331-3A for 64102@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 14:04:06 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A113C09FA21; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 11:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from mail.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id nvQ80hZW_CTv; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 11:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B353C09FB42; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 11:04:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 mail.cs.ucla.edu 36B353C09FB42 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cs.ucla.edu; s=9D0B346E-2AEB-11ED-9476-E14B719DCE6C; t=1687111440; bh=AmFMzOhisEiJAfjrf2OxqamITGOcU06NahYidQLnUKg=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:To:From; b=WYVepCA/D6txi9qNBLqjgVq80Z2XiE/EqcdWWjilhyfU5gTA4bi76hlYr4r+mqsvZ Yuc4J6Zsqne9xJ52uIVc6Rf8NtCQQ35j7x/kZb2wGiZ0dogn/o9FDyAqWKOASsi3H9 8cR5mBLqkCja/bv/3gojI4zYSZ0LR2pooKirEc+AJlKWrhFb4r/HQpkxOHd33NfxCz /YX4PLRfFZfHAy1NdpdRffWM05ziQ019wGogyx0ECONluPlgbabQEB1JwHi1MugIML La63YDb8a08qDlTdZSmR+oWQTlEa+sc7CfVsYNQBu3Q11tZ0uOy6mDTcbByv82evz7 uNrVsXBzXBr8Q== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from mail.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Q3-x906PoNmb; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 11:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (cpe-172-91-119-151.socal.res.rr.com [172.91.119.151]) by mail.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C7003C09FA21; Sun, 18 Jun 2023 11:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <83352pp2vv.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:263650 Archived-At: On 2023-06-18 01:53, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Paul, any comments or ideas? Emacs's behavior is well-documented and longstanding. It's also wrong, in that it disagrees with almost every other program and it therefore confuses users, particularly non-experts. One possible way out would be to add a user-settable flag to select the longstanding Emacs behavior, or the behavior of most other programs. We could document that the default might change in the future. Of course this approach would have its own problems.