From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Flynn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46607: 25.2; Emacs hangs with Error running timer 'blink-cursor-start' Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:14:26 +0000 Organization: Silmaril Consultants Message-ID: <3c610b16-ca3c-f001-9aaf-f69d3adc0ffc@silmaril.ie> References: <87v9apwq4o.fsf@gnus.org> <87sg5stemo.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4733"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 Cc: 46607@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 19 15:18:29 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lD6c1-00015j-5K for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 15:18:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56796 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lD6bz-0004hU-Ut for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 09:18:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53952) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lD6Yg-0001nq-8v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 09:15:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37447) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lD6Yg-0006my-0a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 09:15:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lD6Yf-0002Qn-Pg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 09:15:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Peter Flynn Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46607 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 46607-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46607.16137440799299 (code B ref 46607); Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:15:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46607) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2021 14:14:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48993 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lD6YJ-0002Pv-FM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 09:14:39 -0500 Original-Received: from orion.myhost.ie ([217.115.118.6]:43811) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lD6YE-0002Pa-0E for 46607@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 09:14:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.180] (unknown [79.97.20.231]) (Authenticated sender: peter@silmaril.ie) by orion.myhost.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3BFAD7D8A; Fri, 19 Feb 2021 14:14:27 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <87sg5stemo.fsf@gnus.org> Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:200333 Archived-At: On 19/02/2021 12:40, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Peter Flynn writes: > >>> (let* ((time t1) (high (car-safe (prog >>> time-add(nil 10) > > OK, so your `time-add' is definitely an Emacs Lisp function. But: > >> It says >> >>> time-add is a built-in function in ‘C source code’. >>> (time-add A B) > > Your Emacs claims that `time-add' is a built-in C function. So something > is very odd here. I rely on your knowledge here. > And: > >> On a bare-bones Mint 19 with no .emacs and using emacs -Q (capital Q) >> the *messages* buffer contains: >> >> [...] >> >>> Checking for load-path shadows... >>> Checking 255 files in /usr/share/emacs/25.2/lisp... >>> Checking 41 files in /usr/share/emacs/25.2/lisp/vc... >>> Checking 33 files in /usr/share/emacs/25.2/lisp/url... > > Your Emacs is issuing some messages that Emacs do not normally do on > loadup -- even with an "emacs -Q", which should be impossible. Aha. I was certainly puzzled that there were messages when using -Q > I can only guess at what's going on, but the most likely explanation for > these very strange behaviours is that the people who have packed up your > Emacs version (in Mint 19) have done some highly non-standard things. > So you should perhaps report this as a bug with the Mint people instead. Who typically packages debs for a distro: Emacs people doing it for their fav distro, or distro people doing it cos they want Emacs? I'm baffled that the entire Emacs-using community on Mint (or perhaps that should be the Mint-using community of Emacs users) hasn't found this and lodged a bug report. And there was that additional comment on the emacs.se site from a Mac user who got the identical messages. I'm going to try some other distros from USB and see what their emacsen do. The Emacs on other platforms exhibits the same bug, I'll be back :-) Thanks for all your help. Peter