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[76.168.148.233]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 23-20020a17090a19d700b002805740d668sm4214736pjj.4.2023.11.17.18.09.20 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Nov 2023 18:09:21 -0800 (PST) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:274526 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------c0q4k8B0P0JpPPo3JFZoCO0V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 10/29/2023 9:38 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > So perhaps it is possible for the first few sections to use examples > which work the same in lexical mode and dynamic mode, THEN show an > example for which it does make a difference as a way to explain the > two modes. It took a bit longer for me to get back to this than I had hoped, but here's an updated patch. I've added a new subsection to the end that describes lexical vs dynamic binding, and tried to keep the "let Prevents Confusion" section as similar in spirit as I could to the original, while still updating the parts that change under lexical binding. --------------c0q4k8B0P0JpPPo3JFZoCO0V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; name="0001-Introduce-let-using-lexical-binding-in-the-Lisp-Intr.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename*0="0001-Introduce-let-using-lexical-binding-in-the-Lisp-Intr.pa"; filename*1="tch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 RnJvbSBjOTcyYjBmYmY1MmViMzNlY2ViMmI2NTQ3YmU0MThlNmU2NGJjMWY3IE1vbiBTZXAg MTcgMDA6MDA6MDAgMjAwMQpGcm9tOiBKaW0gUG9ydGVyIDxqcG9ydGVyYnVnc0BnbWFpbC5j b20+CkRhdGU6IFdlZCwgMjUgT2N0IDIwMjMgMjA6NDM6NTcgLTA3MDAKU3ViamVjdDogW1BB VENIXSBJbnRyb2R1Y2UgJ2xldCcgdXNpbmcgbGV4aWNhbCBiaW5kaW5nIGluIHRoZSBMaXNw CiBJbnRyb2R1Y3Rpb24KCkJ1ZyM2Njc1Ni4KCiogZG9jL2xpc3BpbnRyby9lbWFjcy1saXNw LWludHJvLnRleGkgKFByZXZlbnQgY29uZnVzaW9uKTogUmV3b3JrIHRoZQpleHBsYW5hdGlv 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