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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, rgm@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	13521@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#13521: `sort-lines' on the empty region
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 07:36:55 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3aad96d8-2503-40e8-b684-8ed18a089083@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<83imcspim8.fsf@gnu.org>>

> > > So if the user has transient-mark-mode disabled (which is what I do),
> > > the command will always sort the entire buffer?  Or did I
> > > misunderstand something?
> >
> > I didn't consider that case, but you are correct.  The behavior would be
> > like that documented in `flush-lines':
> >
> >     Interactively, in Transient Mark mode when the mark is active, operate
> >     on the contents of the region.  Otherwise, operate from point to the
> >     end of (the accessible portion of) the buffer.
> >
> > I'm not sure the `flush-lines' behavior makes sense, though.  It looks
> > like you can't run it on a region without transient-mark-mode.  So maybe
> > we should fix that as well.
> 
> I think we should indeed fix flush-lines as well, yes.
> 
> > (Note that `flush-lines' operates from point to point-max, but
> > `sort-lines' is proposed here to operate on the entire buffer instead as
> > per previous discussion in this bug.)
> 
> I guess due to historical reasons?

Apologies for not following this thread and perhaps
misunderstanding at this point.

If `transient-mark-mode' is off then there is no notion
of an "active region".  There is just the region.

I doubt that someone who has `transient-mark-mode' off
would ever want commands such as `flush-lines' and
`sort-lines' to act on the region.  And if they did, I
expect they'd just narrow to it.

Anything that works on "the active region" is something
that makes sense only when `transient-mark-mode' is on
(IMHO).





       reply	other threads:[~2020-09-05 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<20130122085354.75ced82538551655e724e0ea@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<jwvobgh2rkw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<i2ehhdaxnq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]     ` <<jwv1udd2gab.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<CADwFkm=SDc3obOA_KXvtWOBRay+aWtnOtkKX5SGPwXGVB=+hYg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <<83mu2objro.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <<CADwFkmnf6ch6CBN13opEWDVnZYY-TaT236xg21Qg2KjWuUVz+w@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <<83imdcbgc5.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]               ` <<CADwFkm=V7cUz2_5Xr8=k6EZbFK96pJu8wpo6uAA+H7ABDYdH0w@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <<83imcspim8.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-09-05 14:36                   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-09-05 14:51                     ` bug#13521: `sort-lines' on the empty region Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-05 15:34                       ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] <<<<20130122085354.75ced82538551655e724e0ea@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<<<jwvobgh2rkw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<<<i2ehhdaxnq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]     ` <<<<jwv1udd2gab.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<<<CADwFkm=SDc3obOA_KXvtWOBRay+aWtnOtkKX5SGPwXGVB=+hYg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <<<<83mu2objro.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <<<<CADwFkmnf6ch6CBN13opEWDVnZYY-TaT236xg21Qg2KjWuUVz+w@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <<<<83imdcbgc5.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]               ` <<<<CADwFkm=V7cUz2_5Xr8=k6EZbFK96pJu8wpo6uAA+H7ABDYdH0w@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <<<<83imcspim8.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                   ` <<<3aad96d8-2503-40e8-b684-8ed18a089083@default>
     [not found]                     ` <<<83a6y4p98g.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                       ` <<7cfc062e-05b2-43f1-8714-19ebd955b88c@default>
     [not found]                         ` <<837dt8p74z.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-09-05 15:46                           ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <<<20130122085354.75ced82538551655e724e0ea@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<<jwvobgh2rkw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <<<i2ehhdaxnq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]     ` <<<jwv1udd2gab.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<<CADwFkm=SDc3obOA_KXvtWOBRay+aWtnOtkKX5SGPwXGVB=+hYg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <<<83mu2objro.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <<<CADwFkmnf6ch6CBN13opEWDVnZYY-TaT236xg21Qg2KjWuUVz+w@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <<<83imdcbgc5.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]               ` <<<CADwFkm=V7cUz2_5Xr8=k6EZbFK96pJu8wpo6uAA+H7ABDYdH0w@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <<<83imcspim8.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                   ` <<3aad96d8-2503-40e8-b684-8ed18a089083@default>
     [not found]                     ` <<83a6y4p98g.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-09-05 15:22                       ` Drew Adams
2020-09-05 15:37                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-22  0:53 Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-22  3:19 ` Glenn Morris
2013-01-22  3:44   ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-22  3:44   ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-22 14:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-22 18:19   ` Glenn Morris
2013-01-22 19:04     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-21  1:18       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-21  6:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-21  7:15           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-21  7:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-05 11:13               ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-05 11:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-10 11:25           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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