From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>
Cc: xfq.free@gmail.com, rgm@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
13521@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#13521: `sort-lines' on the empty region
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 07:36:55 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3aad96d8-2503-40e8-b684-8ed18a089083@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<83imcspim8.fsf@gnu.org>>
> > > So if the user has transient-mark-mode disabled (which is what I do),
> > > the command will always sort the entire buffer? Or did I
> > > misunderstand something?
> >
> > I didn't consider that case, but you are correct. The behavior would be
> > like that documented in `flush-lines':
> >
> > Interactively, in Transient Mark mode when the mark is active, operate
> > on the contents of the region. Otherwise, operate from point to the
> > end of (the accessible portion of) the buffer.
> >
> > I'm not sure the `flush-lines' behavior makes sense, though. It looks
> > like you can't run it on a region without transient-mark-mode. So maybe
> > we should fix that as well.
>
> I think we should indeed fix flush-lines as well, yes.
>
> > (Note that `flush-lines' operates from point to point-max, but
> > `sort-lines' is proposed here to operate on the entire buffer instead as
> > per previous discussion in this bug.)
>
> I guess due to historical reasons?
Apologies for not following this thread and perhaps
misunderstanding at this point.
If `transient-mark-mode' is off then there is no notion
of an "active region". There is just the region.
I doubt that someone who has `transient-mark-mode' off
would ever want commands such as `flush-lines' and
`sort-lines' to act on the region. And if they did, I
expect they'd just narrow to it.
Anything that works on "the active region" is something
that makes sense only when `transient-mark-mode' is on
(IMHO).
next parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-05 14:36 UTC|newest]
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2020-09-05 14:36 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-09-05 14:51 ` bug#13521: `sort-lines' on the empty region Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-05 15:34 ` Stefan Monnier
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2020-09-05 15:46 ` Drew Adams
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2020-09-05 15:22 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-05 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-22 0:53 Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-22 3:19 ` Glenn Morris
2013-01-22 3:44 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-22 3:44 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-22 14:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-22 18:19 ` Glenn Morris
2013-01-22 19:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-08-21 1:18 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-21 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-21 7:15 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-21 7:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-05 11:13 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-05 11:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-10 11:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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