From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21472: 25.0.50; REGRESSION: (emacs) `Coding Systems' uses curly quotes for Lisp strings Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 16:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3aa1fafa-ed4d-4935-8a3e-cae7d0842c5f@default> References: <55F83FDF.2070202@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1442360986 19597 80.91.229.3 (15 Sep 2015 23:49:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 23:49:46 +0000 (UTC) To: Paul Eggert , 21472-done@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 16 01:49:32 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zbzyc-0008KL-UC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2015 01:49:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46440 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zbzyc-0004BV-Fx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:49:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55875) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbzyE-0003aD-Tq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:49:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbzyC-0000HL-3S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:49:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:41494) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbzyC-0000HF-0T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:49:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbzyB-0007HH-RB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:49:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 23:49:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21472 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21472-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D21472.144236090027845 (code D ref 21472); Tue, 15 Sep 2015 23:49:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21472-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2015 23:48:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33688 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbzxT-0007F2-IB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:48:19 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:37887) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZbzxR-0007Eu-MP for 21472-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:48:18 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t8FNm98D027768 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 15 Sep 2015 23:48:10 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t8FNm9Aq027883 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 15 Sep 2015 23:48:09 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0003.oracle.com (abhmp0003.oracle.com [141.146.116.9]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t8FNm8db007176; Tue, 15 Sep 2015 23:48:08 GMT In-Reply-To: <55F83FDF.2070202@cs.ucla.edu> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:106617 Archived-At: > it could be written to avoid the need for the quotes, and this > should help avoid confusion like the problem Drew reported. > I went through the Emacs, Elisp, and Elisp intro manuals looking for > this sort of problem and fixed the ones that I found in commit > ef7dbdf5873bf0a1f3f0e64e5d019e74d5b15b9e. The sentence Drew mentioned no= w > looks like this: >=20 > Emacs handles three different conventions for how to separate lines in a > file: newline (Unix), carriage-return linefeed (DOS), and just carriage-r= eturn > (Mac). >=20 > which avoids the quoting issue entirely. That fixed sentence looks good to me, FWIW. I cannot speak to other quoted terms that you might have changed. I think that those other changes should be handled separately, not as part of the fix for this bug. This bug is about these particular terms: downcased and quoted. IOW, if you want to consider/discuss what should be done (if anything) about other quoted occurrences, please don't tie fixing this bug to that consideration/discussion and possible changes resulting from that consideration/discussion.