From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: ndame via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40774: Error messages shouldn't be hidden when the user is idle Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 17:38:47 +0000 Message-ID: <3HKWEOXkDWKA21dsCFgMgmFIMPR3VwPgNzfTjd7I5Igswu07sfhZaP-td1X4Py66xAD6kDLyLjVmujFkuabkY_S9ZZhgGZwi0IaAV6RS59U=@protonmail.com> References: <83mu73eagw.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: ndame , ndame Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="57148"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "40774@debbugs.gnu.org" <40774@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 22 19:40:00 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRJLr-000ElQ-TE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 19:39:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55108 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRJLr-00005j-0b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:39:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38416) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRJKx-0007jp-2f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:39:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRJKw-000825-5l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:41602) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRJKv-000810-Od for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:39:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jRJKv-00011D-MA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:39:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: ndame Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 17:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 40774 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 40774-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B40774.15875771363904 (code B ref 40774); Wed, 22 Apr 2020 17:39:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 40774) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2020 17:38:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53148 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jRJKq-00010u-DX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:38:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40132.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.132]:33340) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jRJKp-00010h-1A for 40774@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:38:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1587577128; bh=poYr0aeKeugcWFGdK1vxwpCwGuxN5H6Dh82MRLUf8Is=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=qG2sMpWybKXb8QQJtLk5/yGuX0YAoYoGfcQNGn9T2z+NJDr8Oiw2K+nyYoLVQTEae hDUZ2hf7l4QMi5XDdoPLZU9rYzygmYTXjI7cXcu89JCkAxzWCnpAzjFnS1sZ0c6leH 37O0wklsS89SBQ+qTfHQmf+EZ445V5wzP6qJt6/w= In-Reply-To: <83mu73eagw.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:178818 Archived-At: > > That's why we have theMessages buffer, where all the messages are > logged, even those that aren't shown in the echo area. A simple > solution to your use case is to have the Messages buffer shown in a > window at all times. I don't have screen real estate to constantly show the Messages buffer and it still has the problem that other messages drown the error messages. But I can solve this problem for myself if needed. I only submitted the idea here, because I felt it could be useful for others too. > > How do you define "user is idle"? The same definition what run-with-idle-timer uses is suitable.