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Tue, 26 Nov 2019 00:47:48 +0100 Original-Received: from 217-149-170-72.nat.highway.telekom.at ([217.149.170.72] helo=[10.0.0.13]) by joan.univie.ac.at with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.2) (envelope-from ) id 1iZO56-0002oC-KJ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 00:47:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <69ef8cf3-9a81-34e6-7685-c60db5421134@gmx.at> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3601.0.10) X-Univie-Virus-Scan: scanned by ClamAV on joan.univie.ac.at X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:172401 Archived-At: I just noted that the ediff-control-panel does not react on any of the = display-buffer-alist possibilities to customize appearance of frames. Konrad > Am 23.11.2019 um 09:16 schrieb martin rudalics : >=20 > > The patch does not do the job. With the customization from my > > previous mail, start Emacs, open, say, foo.tex, and then do > > occur->some text. In the frame with the occur buffer, do bury > > buffer, so that the frame with the occur-buffer becomes iconified, > > so everything is good up to now. But then, doing bury buffer in the > > frame displaying foo.tex, the message-buffer displays in that frame, > > then doing again bury-buffer in that frame, the occur-buffer shows > > up, again in the frame originally intended for foo.tex, that is in > > the wrong frame, i.e., not as intended with the display-buffer-alist > > customization. >=20 > If you want to keep the occur-buffer in an iconified frame, you have > to customize 'switch-to-buffer-skip-visible' to 0 or t in order to > avoid switching to it automatically in another window. When I do that > here, 'bury-buffer' switches between foo.tex, *scratch* and *Messages* > only. >=20 > > Would it not be better to adopt a more radical approach? Say that > > there are two basic defaults between which a user can choose: one as > > it is now, and a second one where there is a strict one-to-one > > correspondence between buffers and frames (i.e., in the terminology > > of Emacs, with no =E2=80=9Cwindows=E2=80=9D at all). Given the = second basis default, > > the user could then customize whether for some buffer-types he/she > > wants to have them displayed in windows, or, depending on the > > buffer-type, customize geometry, fonts etc. of frames. >=20 > I suppose that by customizing 'switch-to-buffer-skip-visible' to t and > using a 'display-buffer-alist' that always makes a new dedicated frame > that becomes invisible when it gets buried, you can largely achieve > that. The only problems should result from internal Emacs functions > that by default try to reuse or split the selected window. I'm quite > sure that nothing can be done in this regard anyway. >=20 > martin >=20