From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Rodgers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: reconsider vc-make-backup-files default Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 10:14:30 -0600 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <3EDF6C66.1050108@yahoo.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054833107 24913 80.91.224.249 (5 Jun 2003 17:11:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 17:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 05 19:11:45 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19NyHB-0006Te-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 19:11:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19NyIu-0000qM-Fi for gnu-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 13:13:32 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Ny3n-0003Ak-0r for bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 12:57:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19NxpY-0007UE-JY for bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 12:43:14 -0400 Original-Received: from chx400.switch.ch ([130.59.10.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19NxNj-0006HY-6g for bug-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 12:14:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.11.165]) by chx400.switch.ch with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19NxNh-0007WA-00 for gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 18:14:25 +0200 Original-Received: by mail.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.2.0.98) from Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (160.45.10.36) with esmtp id ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 18:14:24 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: by Curry.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from news.fu-berlin.de with bsmtp id ; Thu, 5 Jun 2003 18:14:24 +0200 (MEST) Original-To: gnu-emacs-bug@moderators.isc.org Original-Path: 170.207.51.80!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug Original-Lines: 27 X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: 170.207.51.80 X-Orig-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1054829664 12195707 170.207.51.80 (16 [82742]) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:0.9.4.1) Gecko/20020406 Netscape6/6.2.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:5247 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:5247 Dave Love wrote: > I think the default for vc-make-backup-files is wrong (not making > backups for vc-controlled files). It's bitten me in the past and I've > just had an aggrieved user who lost work ask me about it. How did that happen? All I can imagine is that he deleted the file altogether. What version control system is he using? > People assume Emacs will try to prevent them losing work that way by > default, and you can do a lot of work on vc-controlled files between > checkins. Yes, you can. But I'm happy with the current default. Big changes between checkins usually take a long time, and at my site I've got other backups (daily Network Appliance disk snapshots and Veritas incremental and full tapes). I assume you've put (setq vc-make-backup-files make-backup-files) in your site-start.el for your users, until the default gets changed. -- Kevin Rodgers