Re: ange-ftp vs. $ftp_proxy

Re: ange-ftp vs. $ftp_proxy

[Benjamin Riefenstahl]

Hi Dan,


Dan Jacobson <jidanni@dman.ddts.net> writes:
> the entire Emacs Info manual and ange-ftp.el do not mention the word
> ftp_proxy.

Nor does ange-ftp.el mention the words HTTP, HTML, URL or W3.  To me
that indicates that AngeFTP can only do FTP.

> (getenv "ftp_proxy") for me gives "http://localhost:8080/",
> i.e. wwwoffle.

To me this indicates that you have an FTP-to-HTTP gateway running, but
AngeFTP doesn't do HTTP, so this is not usefull to AngeFTP.

> Why not "modernize" ange-ftp to use the ftp_proxy env variable if it
> finds it non empty?  e.g. would wget or lynx be so oblivious? No.

Wget and lynx are primarily HTTP application.  They just also do FTP,
if required.  AngeFTP only does FTP.


If you want AngeFTP to use a proxy, it should be an FTP-to-FTP relay.

If you want to do HTTP, you can look at w3 or emacs-w3m (sp?). 

If you want the same convenience for HTTP, that AngeFTP gives for FTP,
than you need WebDAV support.  I'm not aware of an ELisp implemention
for that or if anybody works on this currently.


Hope this helps, benny

Re: ange-ftp vs. $ftp_proxy

[Kevin Rodgers]

Dan Jacobson wrote:

> Why not "modernize" ange-ftp to use the ftp_proxy env variable if it
> finds it non empty?


I am eagerly awaiting your contribution (implementation).


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Re: ange-ftp vs. $ftp_proxy

[Benjamin Riefenstahl]

Hi Dan,


Dan Jacobson <jidanni@dman.ddts.net> writes:
> ftp_proxy.  Please mention how one can or cannot have ange-ftp use
> this.

Ange-ftp cannot use this. 

> (getenv "ftp_proxy") for me gives "http://localhost:8080/",
> i.e. wwwoffle.

That's an FTP-to-HTTP gateway.  Ange-ftp doesn't do HTTP, only FTP.

> Why not "modernize" ange-ftp to use the ftp_proxy env variable if it
> finds it non empty?  e.g. would wget or lynx be so oblivious? No.

Wget and lynx are primarily HTTP clients, although they will do FTP if
necessary.


For ange-ftp you would need a real FTP-to-FTP proxy. 

For HTTP you can look at W3 or emacs-w3m. 


Hope this helps, benny

ange-ftp vs. $ftp_proxy

[Dan Jacobson]

Gentlemen, the entire Emacs Info manual and ange-ftp.el do not mention
the word ftp_proxy.  Please mention how one can or cannot have
ange-ftp use this.

(getenv "ftp_proxy") for me gives "http://localhost:8080/", i.e. wwwoffle.
So I tried things like
(setq ange-ftp-smart-gateway (getenv "ftp_proxy")), even
(setq ange-ftp-smart-gateway "localhost")
(setq ange-ftp-smart-gateway-port "8080")
but like sorry, no go.

Why not "modernize" ange-ftp to use the ftp_proxy env variable if it
finds it non empty?  e.g. would wget or lynx be so oblivious? No.
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