* bug#1305: OT: Should the Emacs team leave beep-on-error enabled for the sake of people with vision loss?
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@ 2008-11-06 10:25 ` Peter Rayner
2008-11-07 2:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-09 23:25 ` Xavier Maillard
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From: Peter Rayner @ 2008-11-06 10:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 1305
Provided it can be turned off I would leave it on by default. If my
emacspeak doesn't come up talking it's nice to get *some* feedback
that something is alive.
cheers
Peter
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* bug#1305: OT: Should the Emacs team leave beep-on-error enabled for the sake of people with vision loss?
2008-11-06 10:25 ` bug#1305: OT: Should the Emacs team leave beep-on-error enabled for the sake of people with vision loss? Peter Rayner
@ 2008-11-07 2:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-09 23:25 ` Xavier Maillard
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From: Stefan Monnier @ 2008-11-07 2:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: peter.rayner; +Cc: 1305
> Provided it can be turned off I would leave it on by default. If my
> emacspeak doesn't come up talking it's nice to get *some* feedback
> that something is alive.
The emacspeak config should simply include a (setq visible-bell nil) at
the very beginning.
Stefan
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* bug#1305: OT: Should the Emacs team leave beep-on-error enabled for the sake of people with vision loss?
2008-11-06 10:25 ` bug#1305: OT: Should the Emacs team leave beep-on-error enabled for the sake of people with vision loss? Peter Rayner
2008-11-07 2:28 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2008-11-09 23:25 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-11-10 0:34 ` David Reitter
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From: Xavier Maillard @ 2008-11-09 23:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: peter.rayner, 1305; +Cc: bug-gnu-emacs, bug-submit-list, 1305
Provided it can be turned off I would leave it on by default. If my
emacspeak doesn't come up talking it's nice to get *some* feedback
that something is alive.
Correct.
Xavier
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* bug#1305: OT: Should the Emacs team leave beep-on-error enabled for the sake of people with vision loss?
2008-11-09 23:25 ` Xavier Maillard
@ 2008-11-10 0:34 ` David Reitter
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From: David Reitter @ 2008-11-10 0:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Xavier Maillard, 1305; +Cc: peter.rayner, bug-gnu-emacs, bug-submit-list
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On 9 Nov 2008, at 18:25, Xavier Maillard wrote:
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> Provided it can be turned off I would leave it on by default. If my
> emacspeak doesn't come up talking it's nice to get *some* feedback
> that something is alive.
>
> Correct.
The audible bell is annoying and absolutely non-standard. It was the
first thing I turned off in my branch: having Emacs ping loudly
whenever one reached the end or beginning of the buffer when
scrolling, or when some key entered wasn't bound, was just not
acceptable, be it in the open-space office environment or at home.
Why not turn it off by default, but offer a command-line option
(besides the customization variable) to turn it on when desired? One
could even bind the (real, unconditional) bell to some key so that it
can be invoked to test things.
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