From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16196: 24.3.50; Disable ding when scrolling Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 10:40:10 +0100 Message-ID: <397AC4EA-FAF4-470A-A83C-81C1044EBC86@swipnet.se> References: <25C13650-058F-45CC-A961-D789709B1179@swipnet.se> <83d2krc34d.fsf@gnu.org> <29609060-51EE-4D80-9D96-90CABE6A6844@swipnet.se> <834n63bxxb.fsf@gnu.org> <146154A1-1747-40BE-BE17-7DF4FB5DE808@swipnet.se> <831u17bdfy.fsf@gnu.org> <83y53f9s6t.fsf@gnu.org> <3E2B9204-7431-4CC0-952F-C37BB2FFD2D9@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388828473 25983 80.91.229.3 (4 Jan 2014 09:41:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 09:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "16196@debbugs.gnu.org" <16196@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 04 10:41:19 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VzNjK-0004pA-Ns for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 10:41:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53682 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzNjK-000639-6R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 04:41:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57127) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzNjC-000631-1I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 04:41:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzNj6-0002Tx-6T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 04:41:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47238) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VzNj6-0002Tr-2w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 04:41:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzNj5-0008H6-4g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 04:41:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jan =?UTF-8?Q?Dj=C3=A4rv?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 09:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16196 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16196-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16196.138882841631745 (code B ref 16196); Sat, 04 Jan 2014 09:41:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16196) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2014 09:40:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33024 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzNiJ-0008Fx-7l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 04:40:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailfe05.swip.net ([212.247.154.129]:44226 helo=swip.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VzNiG-0008Fn-RW for 16196@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 04:40:13 -0500 X-T2-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 Original-Received: from hosdjarv.se (account mj138573@tele2.se [46.59.42.57] verified) by mailfe05.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPA id 461690885; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 10:40:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82902 Archived-At: Hello. 4 jan 2014 kl. 06:07 skrev Stefan Monnier : >=20 >> I rather have a silent lack of feedback than a lot of beeping.=20 >=20 > If you use the audible bell, the beeping might indeed be a pain in the > ear (tho I can't really judge: I find the audible bell itself to be > unbearable so I've used the visual bell for as long as I can = remember). Visual bell is actually worse. A beep is fast, a visual blink lasts = longer, so the time blinking is longer than the time beeping. > So the question is: which kind of feedback should we use instead? > I'd rather keep some kind of feedback. Maybe a `message'? That sounds like a good idea. Jan D. =20=