From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean Forget Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19174: Wishlist/suggestion for emacs/lisp/calendar/cal-french.el Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 07:40:23 +0200 Message-ID: <39726481-0edd-453c-1143-98fbf0363a95@orange.fr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1646"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.0 Cc: Glenn Morris , Lars Ingebrigtsen , 19174@debbugs.gnu.org To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 10 07:39:32 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lrDPg-0000HC-Hn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 07:39:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40684 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lrDPf-0006Hk-Dy for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 01:39:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42908) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lrDPC-0006HY-FD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 01:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:51863) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lrDPB-0002Zw-Uw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 01:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lrDPB-0000ZD-RK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 01:39:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jean Forget Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 05:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19174 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 19174-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19174.16233035032133 (code B ref 19174); Thu, 10 Jun 2021 05:39:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19174) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2021 05:38:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35176 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lrDOY-0000YK-VY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 01:38:23 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp02.smtpout.orange.fr ([80.12.242.124]:23043 helo=smtp.smtpout.orange.fr) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lrDOW-0000Y6-EN for 19174@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 01:38:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.126] ([86.195.15.38]) by mwinf5d20 with ME id FHe3250050pGKna03HeEe3; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 07:38:14 +0200 X-ME-Helo: [192.168.1.126] X-ME-Auth: cG9uZGVyLnN0aWJib25zQG9yYW5nZS5mcg== X-ME-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 07:38:14 +0200 X-ME-IP: 86.195.15.38 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: fr-FR X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:208311 Archived-At: Le 09/06/2021 à 16:11, Mattias Engdegård a écrit : > I was curious about what the changes would entail, so I took the liberty > to adapt the patch to master; diff attached. (Sorry if I duplicated > someone's work.) > > The addition of individual day names is obviously an improvement. As for > the rest, you should probably explain and defend them (which is not as > terrible as it sounds; we just want to know the reason). > > For example, should the complementary days really be shown with day > numbers and day-of-week names, as they don't really belong to a week or > month? Shouldn't days, months etc be written in lower case since that's > the convention for French? > Several years ago, somebody gave me a PDF file giving historical events for each day of the French Revolutionary calendar. I converted it to HTML and here is the result (English version): http://datetime.mongueurs.net/Histoire/tit/titre-g.en.html When you read the pages for the additional days, you see that they are printed with a day number and a day-of-week name. See http://datetime.mongueurs.net/Histoire/s-c/01-g.en.html About lower case vs upper case: The French convention for Revolutionary names may be different from the French convention for Gregorian names. Most often, the revolutionary month names and day names are printed with an initial capital letter. Yet, there are exceptions. See the front page (link above) which mentions the "9 floréal an 7" with a lower case "f". See the links from https://metacpan.org/pod/DateTime::Calendar::FrenchRevolutionary#Internet (sorry, my email program has split the URL in two lines). Jean Forget