From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#30660: mention describe-bindings on (info "(emacs) Keymaps") Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 20:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <37fa8265-0900-47e7-ba11-6ba40937e2a5@default> References: <831b5f34-28c7-4753-bed9-0a28de484aa8@default> <87tv8bul5g.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="60900"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 30660@debbugs.gnu.org, =?UTF-8?Q?=E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC?= Dan Jacobson To: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 14 22:51:27 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iK7JN-000FiL-Vb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Mon, 14 Oct 2019 20:50:09 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2vkr9xs45q-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 14 Oct 2019 20:50:09 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0012.oracle.com (abhmp0012.oracle.com [141.146.116.18]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id x9EKo6NU028239; Mon, 14 Oct 2019 20:50:06 GMT In-Reply-To: <87tv8bul5g.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4900.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9410 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1910140171 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9410 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1908290000 definitions=main-1910140172 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:169317 Archived-At: > > * lisp/help.el (help-map): Bind the new function to "C-h M". > > * lisp/help.el (help-for-help-internal): Document what "C-h M" does > > when user types "C-h C-h". >=20 > `C-h m' is already used and `C-h M' auto-maps to it currently, so I'm > not sure that's the best binding. But perhaps that's not a problem in > practice. I wrote the code for this command and have been using it since 2007. I already objected here two months ago to Emacs using `C-h M' for this - in the message just after the one you chose to reply to. I requested that `C-h M-k' be used. That's the key I and others have been using for years. And it's mnemonic with "keymap" and "key". Is there a good reason my input is just ignored? For more info, including other problems with the patch provided: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D30660#26 And I do suggest that the other features provided in the original code be included in the vanilla version as well.