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From: Mekeor Melire <mekeor@posteo.de>
To: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	74903@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: bug#74903: [PATCH] Add function to show table of keys when describing keymap variable
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 18:41:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37DCBABA-3D38-4FDD-8769-93E3D7F71DCE@posteo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bjxb5yg5.fsf@gmail.com>

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On December 16, 2024 6:28:58 PM GMT+01:00, Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 16 Dec 2024 17:57:14 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> said:
>
>    >> From: Mekeor Melire <mekeor@posteo.de>
>    >> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 23:14:15 +0000
>    >> 
>    >> It'd be nice if users could opt in to have C-h v some-map RET show a
>    >> nice table of key bindings for that keymap.  I wrote a function that can
>    >> be added to help-fns-describe-variable-functions so that this happens.
>    >> 
>    >> What do you think?
>    >> 
>    >> Alternatively, we can also add a key binding to help-mode so that users
>    >> can easily "switch" from describe-variable to describe-keymap, e.g. per
>    >> "K":
>    >> 
>    >> C-h v message-mode-map RET K
>
>    Eli> We have "C-h b" and "C-h m" which show the bindings, albeit not by
>    Eli> keymap.  Is that not enough for some reason?
>
>"C-h b" shows all the bindings split out by major and minor mode
>already. I guess we could add the name of the relevant keymap as well,
>but the people who need to know the name of the keymap generally know
>enough about Emacs to figure it out (eg via "C-h k").
>
>    Eli> Adding yet another help command related to key bindings needs to be
>    Eli> justified, since we already have at least two with overlapping
>    Eli> functionalities.
>
>    Eli> What do others think about this?
>
>I really donʼt see the need for more functionality here.
>
>Robert
>-- 

I get the impression that you talk about M-x describe-keymap RET which does already exist.

That is not what I proposed. What I proposed is two things:

1. Allow users to opt-in to have C-h v foo-keymap RET show a table of key bindings in addition to the formatting as S-expression. This fits well into the existing help-fns mechanism. The patch I submitted implements a prototype.

2. In help-mode, bind a single-char-key like "K" to a command that will allow users to easily switch from describing a variable as variable to describing it as keymap a la describe-keymap.

I proposed (2.) as an alternative to (1.) but my main proposal is (1.). Both approaches have a similar objection though.


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Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-15 23:14 bug#74903: [PATCH] Add function to show table of keys when describing keymap variable Mekeor Melire
2024-12-16 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-16 17:28   ` Robert Pluim
2024-12-16 18:41     ` Mekeor Melire [this message]

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