From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13451: 24.3.50; doc of `window-persistent-parameters' and window parameters generally Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:06:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3745b225-b269-4bb0-8c65-5fbe5b6515c8@default> References: <54DE40DE.2090506@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423861713 30286 80.91.229.3 (13 Feb 2015 21:08:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:08:33 +0000 (UTC) To: martin rudalics , 13451@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 13 22:08:13 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YMNT8-0007F2-NC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 22:08:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57470 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMNT7-0002Rz-Uo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:08:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43685) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMNT4-0002Qd-AU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:08:07 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMNT0-0005Xk-2Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:08:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51062) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YMNSz-0005Xg-Vb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:08:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMNSz-0005aP-N2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:08:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13451 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13451-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13451.142386162921405 (code B ref 13451); Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:08:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13451) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2015 21:07:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42302 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMNS8-0005ZA-N9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:07:09 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:34287) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YMNS6-0005Yf-KQ for 13451@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:07:07 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t1DL70u5001680 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:07:00 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t1DL6xT5012999 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:06:59 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t1DL6wlD003361; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:06:58 GMT In-Reply-To: <54DE40DE.2090506@gmx.at> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:99329 Archived-At: > > I'm looking for information about window configurations and what > > gets saved/restored etc. > > > > I do `C-h v window-persistent-parameters', and I see that the current > > value, which is apparently the default, is ((clone-of . t)). > > > > Naturally, I want to know what this means, so I read the rest of the > > *Help* buffer. Nada. Well, the `t' is explained, but not the > > `clone-of'. Not very helpful help. > > > > So I search the Elisp manual. I come across nodes `Window > > Configurations' and `Window Parameters'. The latter, in particular, > > seems like it should list the possible parameters, including `clone-of= ', > > which is the parameter saved in a window config by default. > > > > Nada. Again, the CDR of `window-persistent-parameters' is described > > (possible values nil, t, writable), but nothing about the CAR - its > > possible values. Again, not very helpful help. > > > > Please document the possible values for the CAR, at least the most > > common ones, and at the very least `clone-of', which is apparently the > > only one saved/restored by default (at least on MS Windows). > > > > Please describe the window parameters: what they are, what behaviors t= hey > > affect, and how. Describing a window configuration as a saved set of > > window parameters is not very useful if one cannot find out what the > > parameters are or what they do. >=20 > I'm not sure what to do. If there is something particular that is > unclear or you don't understand, please point that out. The CAR of a > `window-persistent-parameters' entry specifies the parameter that shall > be treated specially. What more do you want me to say about it? The > `clone-of' parameter is used by the window code itself and the manual > tells so. If there's anything particular the user or application > programmer should know, the manual will have to be rewritten. Currently > there isn't. I think the request is pretty clear: Please document the possible values for the CAR [of `window-persistent-parameters'], at least the most common ones, and at th= e very least `clone-of', which is apparently the only one saved/restored by default (at least on MS Windows). Please describe the window parameters: what they are, what behaviors they affect, and how. Describing a window configuration as a saved set of window parameters is not very useful if one cannot find out what the parameters are or what they do. That's what to do. Thx.