From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35367: 26.2; `dired-copy-how-to-fn' and HOW-TO arg of `dired-create-files' Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 20:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <372237f8-1d1f-4756-b8df-a20fc6b23745@default> References: <"Thu> <11> <2019> <07:18:26> <-0700."> <17843.1562901627@alto> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="115940"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 35367@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mike Kupfer Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 12 05:34:08 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hlmJz-000Tw9-JR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 12 Jul 2019 03:33:49 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2tmwgyhsws-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 12 Jul 2019 03:33:49 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x6C3XmmE006598; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 03:33:48 GMT In-Reply-To: <17843.1562901627@alto> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4861.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9315 signatures=668688 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1907120041 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9315 signatures=668688 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1907120040 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:162749 Archived-At: > > Kinda seems odd that we'd have created a > > variable for something that someone _might_ > > want to do (but probably never has done). > > > > Usually, when someone proposes something > > like that it gets rejected as fulfilling > > only a hypothetical need. >=20 > Indeed. Maybe there were consumers of dired-copy-how-to-fn back in the > 1990s. While poking around in the sources I noticed a comment in > vc-dir.el saying that it *used to be* based on dired. (Or maybe whoever > was the Emacs maintainer at the time thought dired-copy-how-to-fn was a > cool idea and didn't insist on having a consumer for it.) >=20 > > Anyway, if the variable will stay then it > > would be great if the doc could be fixed > > a bit, based on some of what you said here. >=20 > I can try proposing clearer wording for the dired-do-create-files > docstring, though it'll probably be several days before I can get to it. >=20 > I want to be cautious about proposing ways to use dired-copy-how-to-fn. > My earlier comments were based on my reading of the documentation and a > tiny bit of testing. I wasn't involved with Emacs development when the > dired how-to stuff was introduced, so I don't have any special insights > into what the thinking was at the time. Though the more I think about > my tarfile example, the more I think it'd be a fun little hack. Sounds good. I don't think you have to worry about hurrying. Instead of several days it could probably be several years (decades?) without anyone noticing. ;-)