From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12787: Toolbar regression from Emacs 23 to Emacs 24 -- Save As and Help no longer available Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:33:39 -0400 Message-ID: <35objfn6jw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <10532993.1503752.1351883701083.JavaMail.root@vms170027> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1351884865 28177 80.91.229.3 (2 Nov 2012 19:34:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 19:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12787@debbugs.gnu.org To: jxa127@verizon.net Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 02 20:34:33 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TUN0b-0003Xg-By for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 20:34:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48845 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TUN0S-0002Qx-PG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:34:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44054) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TUN0P-0002Ql-RB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:34:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TUN0O-0007Np-TR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:34:13 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:35820) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TUN0O-0007Nl-OR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:34:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TUN38-0007Ln-5j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:37:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <8698659.1494633.1351877357323.JavaMail.root@vms170027> Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12787 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12787-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12787.135188499328206 (code B ref 12787); Fri, 02 Nov 2012 19:37:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12787) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Nov 2012 19:36:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46071 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TUN2e-0007Ks-Bs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:36:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:48425) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TUN2c-0007Kl-Gt for 12787@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:36:31 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TUMzr-0007M4-H8; Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:33:39 -0400 X-Spook: oil industrial intelligence SDI MILSATCOM AFSPC Hamas X-Ran: wbP{?/M9..=0=|J13#2;p@oU~[/mte2bi)dLmtG\.c%i>9Fsa-A|Fm=5cfKa!8vX*~>ZnS X-Hue: yellow X-Attribution: GM User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:66356 Archived-At: jxa127@verizon.net wrote: > I see your point, however the fact remains that this is a regression > from Emacs 23 -- and a seemingly arbitrary one at that -- that wasn't > mentioned in the NEWS. The motivation is in this thread: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2010-11/msg00701.html Presumably no-one thought it was NEWSworthy, since it is self-evident. We can't go back in time and add it now. > I'd prefer though, that the buttons go back onto the tool bar be > default. Seems unlikely to me.