From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20247: 24.4; Emacs hangs at startup in desktop mode Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 10:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <351db804-d149-416c-a1d7-422aefb3829c@default> References: <<<551D5EB90201036000390576_0_67183@p057> <09b74092-e4db-4ee0-8508-a71cc29e0205@default>>> <<<83d1og90iw.fsf@gnu.org>>> <<4eebea73-4fcb-4dc7-b149-cef7a34a3c16@default>> <<837feo8w0u.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1463766929 29921 80.91.229.3 (20 May 2016 17:55:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 17:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rmunitz1@bloomberg.net, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 20247@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 20 19:55:16 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b3odm-0003nf-K3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 19:55:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55823 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3odl-0006HA-Lb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 13:55:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35435) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3ode-0006BE-3D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 13:55:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3odZ-00049W-Vs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 13:55:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:46974) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b3odZ-00049S-Sy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 13:55:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b3odZ-0006bt-Ne for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 13:55:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 20 May 2016 17:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20247 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20247-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20247.146376688425379 (code B ref 20247); Fri, 20 May 2016 17:55:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20247) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2016 17:54:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59311 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b3odH-0006bH-Rt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 13:54:44 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:35599) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b3odF-0006b4-Bo for 20247@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2016 13:54:41 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u4KHsWm1018570 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 20 May 2016 17:54:32 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u4KHsV7t025617 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 20 May 2016 17:54:32 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0003.oracle.com (abhmp0003.oracle.com [141.146.116.9]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u4KHsSnW012091; Fri, 20 May 2016 17:54:30 GMT In-Reply-To: <<837feo8w0u.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:118496 Archived-At: > Juanma is not the one who claims that the current default value is > the correct one; you are. I hoped you could explain why you think so. No, I have not claimed that. Not at all. > > Desktop records lots of stuff that might not be usable when > > an attempt is made to restore the recorded desktop. >=20 > Actually, no, it doesn't. It generally records only values that > should be usable. "Generally" meaning mostly, maybe. Yes, most of the values are anodyne most of the time (like `display'?).