From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14945: 24.3.50; (elisp) `The Mark': mention that mouse selection turns on `transient-mark-mode' temporarily Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <34e84b3b-2268-4430-8bdc-f8cc67e68c3f@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374676936 14633 80.91.229.3 (24 Jul 2013 14:42:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:42:16 +0000 (UTC) To: 14945@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 24 16:42:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Gc-0001K1-HS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:42:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35078 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Gc-0003I3-6c for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:42:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48394) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V20GV-0003Hk-1Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:42:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V20GQ-0007PO-Ad for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:42:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52896) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V20GQ-0007PF-7g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:42:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V20GP-0007mR-Pc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:42:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 14945 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.137467689029826 (code B ref -1); Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:42:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jul 2013 14:41:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47204 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Fu-0007ky-AV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:41:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46446) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Fr-0007kd-6o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:41:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Fk-0007GA-VJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:41:22 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:33358) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Fk-0007G6-SQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:41:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48167) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Fj-0002hw-Lu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:41:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Fi-0007Fs-Hb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:41:19 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:28037) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V20Fi-0007Fo-Al for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:41:18 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r6OEfGRY028978 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:41:17 GMT Original-Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6OEfFCE004229 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:41:16 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt110.oracle.com (abhmt110.oracle.com [141.146.116.62]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6OEfFYg018599 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:41:15 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:76622 Archived-At: The doc says nothing about selection with the mouse activating the region and turning on `transient-mark-mode' temporarily. But it does so. emacs -Q In *scratch* type this: transient-mark-mode (region-active-p) mark-active M-: transient-mark-mode ; to turn it off - verify with C-h v. Put cursor after each of the sexps and hit C-x C-e. Now select each one using only the mouse and use C-x C-e again for each. Selecting with the mouse turns on `transient-mark-mode', at least temporarily - the non-nil value is `(only)'. Lisp users should be informed about this. For one thing, they will not otherwise understand certain code, including `region-active-p', wrt mouse selection. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-07-14 on ODIEONE Bzr revision: 113423 lekktu@gmail.com-20130715004922-i67tg2ois14h3fpm Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/Devel/emacs/binary --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs CFLAGS=3D'-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=3D'-Ic:/Devel/emacs/include' LDFLAGS=3D'-Lc:/Devel/emacs/lib''