* bug#61925: 30.0.50; normal-mode does not set up local variables in temporary buffers (scratch, with-temp-buffer)
@ 2023-03-02 23:11 Wolfgang Scherer
2023-03-04 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Scherer @ 2023-03-02 23:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 61925
The command `normal-mode' does not set file local variables, if a
buffer does not have a `buffer-file-name'. This affects *scratch* and
buffers created using `with-temp-buffer'.
The behavior changed at some time between Emacs version 20.5.2.2 and 20.6.3.
See output from various Emacs versions further below.
If that was an intentional change, it should be prominently documented
to avoid the confusion when examples do not work in a *scratch* buffer.
I would even recommend a warning prompt in normal-mode, when called
interactively.
After executing the the test expression
(let ((expected-value (not (default-value 'truncate-lines)))
sep)
(princ "# |:sec:| local variables test\n")
(dolist (fn (list nil "fake-file-name"))
(with-temp-buffer
(insert (format (concat ";; -*-"
" mode: fundamental;"
" truncate-lines: %S;"
" -*-")
expected-value))
(let ((buffer-file-name fn))
(normal-mode)
(princ (format (concat sep
".. code-block:: elisp\n"
"\n"
" ;; emacs-version: %s\n"
" ;; buffer-file-name: %S\n"
" ;; truncate-lines: %S\n"
" ;; expected-value: %S\n")
emacs-version buffer-file-name
expected-value truncate-lines))))
(setq sep "\n"))
(princ "# |:sec:| local variables test\n"))
the following output is shown in the *Message* buffer:
# |:sec:| local variables test
.. code-block:: elisp
;; emacs-version: 30.0.50
;; buffer-file-name: nil
;; truncate-lines: t
;; expected-value: nil
.. code-block:: elisp
;; emacs-version: 30.0.50
;; buffer-file-name: "fake-file-name"
;; truncate-lines: t
;; expected-value: t
# |:sec:| local variables test
Here is the output from various Emacs versions, I have access to:
# |:sec:| local variables test
.. code-block:: elisp
;; emacs-version: 22.1.1
;; buffer-file-name: nil
;; truncate-lines: t
;; expected-value: t
.. code-block:: elisp
;; emacs-version: 22.1.1
;; buffer-file-name: "fake-file-name"
;; truncate-lines: t
;; expected-value: t
# |:sec:| local variables test
# |:sec:| local variables test
.. code-block:: elisp
;; emacs-version: 24.3.1
;; buffer-file-name: nil
;; truncate-lines: t
;; expected-value: t
.. code-block:: elisp
;; emacs-version: 24.3.1
;; buffer-file-name: "fake-file-name"
;; truncate-lines: t
;; expected-value: t
# |:sec:| local variables test
# |:sec:| local variables test
.. code-block:: elisp
;; emacs-version: 24.5.1
;; buffer-file-name: nil
;; truncate-lines: t
;; expected-value: t
.. code-block:: elisp
;; emacs-version: 24.5.1
;; buffer-file-name: "fake-file-name"
;; truncate-lines: t
;; expected-value: t
# |:sec:| local variables test
# |:sec:| local variables test
.. code-block:: elisp
;; emacs-version: 25.2.2
;; buffer-file-name: nil
;; truncate-lines: t
;; expected-value: t
.. code-block:: elisp
;; emacs-version: 25.2.2
;; buffer-file-name: "fake-file-name"
;; truncate-lines: t
;; expected-value: t
# |:sec:| local variables test
# |:sec:| local variables test
.. code-block:: elisp
;; emacs-version: 26.3
;; buffer-file-name: nil
;; truncate-lines: t
;; expected-value: nil
.. code-block:: elisp
;; emacs-version: 26.3
;; buffer-file-name: "fake-file-name"
;; truncate-lines: t
;; expected-value: t
# |:sec:| local variables test
# |:sec:| local variables test
.. code-block:: elisp
;; emacs-version: 27.1
;; buffer-file-name: nil
;; truncate-lines: t
;; expected-value: nil
.. code-block:: elisp
;; emacs-version: 27.1
;; buffer-file-name: "fake-file-name"
;; truncate-lines: t
;; expected-value: t
# |:sec:| local variables test
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* bug#61925: 30.0.50; normal-mode does not set up local variables in temporary buffers (scratch, with-temp-buffer)
2023-03-02 23:11 bug#61925: 30.0.50; normal-mode does not set up local variables in temporary buffers (scratch, with-temp-buffer) Wolfgang Scherer
@ 2023-03-04 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-05 4:58 ` Wolfgang Scherer
` (3 more replies)
0 siblings, 4 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-03-04 10:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Wolfgang Scherer; +Cc: 61925
tags 61925 notabug
thanks
> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 00:11:13 +0100
> From: Wolfgang Scherer <Wolfgang.Scherer@gmx.de>
>
> The command `normal-mode' does not set file local variables, if a
> buffer does not have a `buffer-file-name'. This affects *scratch* and
> buffers created using `with-temp-buffer'.
>
> The behavior changed at some time between Emacs version 20.5.2.2 and 20.6.3.
> See output from various Emacs versions further below.
>
> If that was an intentional change, it should be prominently documented
> to avoid the confusion when examples do not work in a *scratch* buffer.
This was an intentional change, yes.
And AFAICT, it _is_ documented in the ELisp Reference manual:
-- Command: normal-mode &optional find-file
This function establishes the proper major mode and buffer-local
variable bindings for the current buffer. It calls ‘set-auto-mode’
(see below). As of Emacs 26.1, it no longer runs
‘hack-local-variables’, this now being done in ‘run-mode-hooks’ at
the initialization of major modes (*note Mode Hooks::).
And the documentation of run-mode-hooks says:
-- Function: run-mode-hooks &rest hookvars
Major modes should run their mode hook using this function. It is
similar to ‘run-hooks’ (*note Hooks::), but it also runs
‘change-major-mode-after-body-hook’, ‘hack-local-variables’ (when
the buffer is visiting a file) (*note File Local Variables::) ^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The user manual indeed didn't mention this caveat; I've now mentioned
that aspect there (and also in the doc strings of the relevant
functions).
(The change in Emacs 26 that caused this as a side effect was to fix
bug#15577 and bug#23407.)
> I would even recommend a warning prompt in normal-mode, when called
> interactively.
I think such a warning could be an annoyance.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#61925: 30.0.50; normal-mode does not set up local variables in temporary buffers (scratch, with-temp-buffer)
2023-03-04 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-03-05 4:58 ` Wolfgang Scherer
2023-03-05 5:03 ` Wolfgang Scherer
` (2 subsequent siblings)
3 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Scherer @ 2023-03-05 4:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 61925
> tags 61925 notabug
> thanks
>
>> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 00:11:13 +0100
>> From: Wolfgang Scherer <Wolfgang.Scherer@gmx.de>
>>
>> The command `normal-mode' does not set file local variables, if a
>> buffer does not have a `buffer-file-name'. This affects *scratch* and
>> buffers created using `with-temp-buffer'.
>>
>> The behavior changed at some time between Emacs version 20.5.2.2 and 20.6.3.
>> See output from various Emacs versions further below.
>>
>> If that was an intentional change, it should be prominently documented
>> to avoid the confusion when examples do not work in a *scratch* buffer.
> This was an intentional change, yes.
Alright, in this case, I would like to publish an advice which restores
the previous behavior for anybody running into the same problem:
(let* ((expected-value (not (default-value 'truncate-lines)))
(need-advice (with-temp-buffer
(insert (format (concat ";; -*-"
" mode: fudamental-mode;"
" truncate-lines: %S;"
" -*-")
expected-value))
(normal-mode)
(not (eq truncate-lines expected-value)))))
(when need-advice
(defadvice normal-mode (around wsx-normal-mode activate)
"Bind buffer-file-name to `null-device', if it is nil."
(let ((buffer-file-name (or buffer-file-name null-device "/dev/null")))
ad-do-it))))
> And AFAICT, it _is_ documented in the ELisp Reference manual:
>
> -- Command: normal-mode &optional find-file
> This function establishes the proper major mode and buffer-local
> variable bindings for the current buffer. It calls ‘set-auto-mode’
> (see below). As of Emacs 26.1, it no longer runs
> ‘hack-local-variables’, this now being done in ‘run-mode-hooks’ at
> the initialization of major modes (*note Mode Hooks::).
>
> And the documentation of run-mode-hooks says:
>
>
> -- Function: run-mode-hooks &rest hookvars
> Major modes should run their mode hook using this function. It is
> similar to ‘run-hooks’ (*note Hooks::), but it also runs
> ‘change-major-mode-after-body-hook’, ‘hack-local-variables’ (when
> the buffer is visiting a file) (*note File Local Variables::) ^^^^
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> The user manual indeed didn't mention this caveat; I've now mentioned
> that aspect there (and also in the doc strings of the relevant
> functions).
>
> (The change in Emacs 26 that caused this as a side effect was to fix
> bug#15577 and bug#23407.)
>
>> I would even recommend a warning prompt in normal-mode, when called
>> interactively.
> I think such a warning could be an annoyance.
It most definitely should be, to get the proper attention. It
could be disabled by setting a customized variable, pretty much
the same way as risky local variables can be enabled with custom
settings. That would reduce the annoyance to once in a session or
once in a lifetime.
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* bug#61925: 30.0.50; normal-mode does not set up local variables in temporary buffers (scratch, with-temp-buffer)
2023-03-04 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-05 4:58 ` Wolfgang Scherer
@ 2023-03-05 5:03 ` Wolfgang Scherer
2023-03-06 2:07 ` Wolfgang Scherer
2024-01-10 11:08 ` Stefan Kangas
3 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Scherer @ 2023-03-05 5:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 61925
> And AFAICT, it _is_ documented in the ELisp Reference manual:
>
> -- Command: normal-mode &optional find-file
> This function establishes the proper major mode and buffer-local
> variable bindings for the current buffer. It calls ‘set-auto-mode’
> (see below). As of Emacs 26.1, it no longer runs
> ‘hack-local-variables’, this now being done in ‘run-mode-hooks’ at
> the initialization of major modes (*note Mode Hooks::).
>
> And the documentation of run-mode-hooks says:
>
>
> -- Function: run-mode-hooks &rest hookvars
> Major modes should run their mode hook using this function. It is
> similar to ‘run-hooks’ (*note Hooks::), but it also runs
> ‘change-major-mode-after-body-hook’, ‘hack-local-variables’ (when
> the buffer is visiting a file) (*note File Local Variables::) ^^^^
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Just for your information, the machinery in `normal-mode' and
`run-mode-hooks' is -- at least in some edge cases -- out of
sync.
Here is a case, where normal-mode in Emacs > 26.1 still calls
`hack-local-variables', which causes a discrepancy, depending on
`delay-mode-hooks', when `after-change-major-mode-hook' alters
the value of a local variable, which is also set in the local
variables list. The reason is, that in `normal-mode'
`after-change-major-mode-hook' is not called the same way as it
is in `run-mode-hooks'.
;; for all cases: `after-change-major-mode-hook' establishes local
;; variable and sets the value to "hello"
;; case 1: buffer with `buffer-file-name' == nil, `delay-mode-hooks' case 1.1: nil, case 1.2: t
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer nil nil nil t ) ::go:: ;; => hello
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer t nil nil t ) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
;; case 2: buffer with `buffer-file-name' not nil, `delay-mode-hooks' case 2.1: nil, case 2.2: t
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer nil t nil t ) ::go:: ;; => hello
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer t t nil t ) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
The following is the complete test setup that I used for testing:
(defun check-normal-mode (&optional set-delay-mode-hooks set-buffer-file-name find-file)
(interactive)
(let ((buffer-file-name (or buffer-file-name (and set-buffer-file-name (or null-device "/dev/null"))))
(delay-mode-hooks (if set-delay-mode-hooks t)))
(normal-mode find-file)))
(defun check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer (set-delay-mode-hooks set-buffer-file-name change-hook after-hook)
(let ((hook-function #'(lambda () (make-local-variable 'wsx-here-i-am) (setq wsx-here-i-am "hello"))))
(if change-hook
(add-hook 'change-major-mode-after-body-hook hook-function)
(remove-hook 'change-major-mode-after-body-hook hook-function))
(if after-hook
(add-hook 'after-change-major-mode-hook hook-function)
(remove-hook 'after-change-major-mode-hook hook-function))
(put 'wsx-here-i-am 'safe-local-variable 'string-or-null-p)
(with-temp-buffer
(insert ";; -*- mode: lisp-interaction; truncate-lines: t; wsx-here-i-am: \"good bye\"; -*-\n")
(normal-mode)
(check-normal-mode set-delay-mode-hooks set-buffer-file-name)
(describe-variable 'wsx-here-i-am)
)
(remove-hook 'change-major-mode-after-body-hook hook-function)
(remove-hook 'after-change-major-mode-hook hook-function)
(put 'wsx-here-i-am 'safe-local-variable nil)))
;; Emacs >= 26.1
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer nil nil nil nil) ::go:: ;; => void
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer t nil nil nil) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer nil t nil nil) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer t t nil nil) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer nil nil t nil) ::go:: ;; => hello
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer t nil t nil) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer nil t t nil) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer t t t nil) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer nil nil nil t ) ::go:: ;; => hello
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer t nil nil t ) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer nil t nil t ) ::go:: ;; => hello
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer t t nil t ) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
;; Emacs < 26.1
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer nil nil nil nil) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer t nil nil nil) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer nil t nil nil) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer t t nil nil) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer nil nil t nil) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer t nil t nil) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer nil t t nil) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer t t t nil) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer nil nil nil t ) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer t nil nil t ) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer nil t nil t ) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
(check-normal-mode-in-temp-buffer t t nil t ) ::go:: ;; => good-bye
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* bug#61925: 30.0.50; normal-mode does not set up local variables in temporary buffers (scratch, with-temp-buffer)
2023-03-04 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-05 4:58 ` Wolfgang Scherer
2023-03-05 5:03 ` Wolfgang Scherer
@ 2023-03-06 2:07 ` Wolfgang Scherer
2024-01-10 11:08 ` Stefan Kangas
3 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Scherer @ 2023-03-06 2:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 61925
The corrected version of the advice fixes the invalid mode specification.
(let* ((expected-value (not (default-value 'truncate-lines)))
(need-advice (with-temp-buffer
(insert (format (concat ";; -*-"
" mode: fundamental;"
" truncate-lines: %S;"
" -*-")
expected-value))
(normal-mode)
(not (eq truncate-lines expected-value)))))
(when need-advice
(defadvice normal-mode (around wsx-normal-mode activate)
"Bind buffer-file-name to `null-device', if it is nil."
(let ((buffer-file-name (or buffer-file-name null-device "/dev/null")))
ad-do-it))))
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#61925: 30.0.50; normal-mode does not set up local variables in temporary buffers (scratch, with-temp-buffer)
2023-03-04 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2023-03-06 2:07 ` Wolfgang Scherer
@ 2024-01-10 11:08 ` Stefan Kangas
3 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Kangas @ 2024-01-10 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 61925-done, Wolfgang Scherer
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> tags 61925 notabug
> thanks
>
>> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 00:11:13 +0100
>> From: Wolfgang Scherer <Wolfgang.Scherer@gmx.de>
>>
>> The command `normal-mode' does not set file local variables, if a
>> buffer does not have a `buffer-file-name'. This affects *scratch* and
>> buffers created using `with-temp-buffer'.
>>
>> The behavior changed at some time between Emacs version 20.5.2.2 and 20.6.3.
>> See output from various Emacs versions further below.
>>
>> If that was an intentional change, it should be prominently documented
>> to avoid the confusion when examples do not work in a *scratch* buffer.
>
> This was an intentional change, yes.
>
> And AFAICT, it _is_ documented in the ELisp Reference manual:
>
> -- Command: normal-mode &optional find-file
> This function establishes the proper major mode and buffer-local
> variable bindings for the current buffer. It calls ‘set-auto-mode’
> (see below). As of Emacs 26.1, it no longer runs
> ‘hack-local-variables’, this now being done in ‘run-mode-hooks’ at
> the initialization of major modes (*note Mode Hooks::).
>
> And the documentation of run-mode-hooks says:
>
>
> -- Function: run-mode-hooks &rest hookvars
> Major modes should run their mode hook using this function. It is
> similar to ‘run-hooks’ (*note Hooks::), but it also runs
> ‘change-major-mode-after-body-hook’, ‘hack-local-variables’ (when
> the buffer is visiting a file) (*note File Local Variables::) ^^^^
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> The user manual indeed didn't mention this caveat; I've now mentioned
> that aspect there (and also in the doc strings of the relevant
> functions).
>
> (The change in Emacs 26 that caused this as a side effect was to fix
> bug#15577 and bug#23407.)
>
>> I would even recommend a warning prompt in normal-mode, when called
>> interactively.
>
> I think such a warning could be an annoyance.
It seems like we're not going to be making any changes here, as this is
the expected behavior.
I'm therefore closing this bug report.
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