From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 31130-done@debbugs.gnu.org, rpluim@gmail.com
Subject: bug#31130: 26; Regression: intra-glossary links broken in Emacs manual
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 08:53:49 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2e49187a-b623-46ad-8acc-1c8b0d787d99@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<83sh801mcl.fsf@gnu.org>>
> > 1. Trying again now, I can repro the problem only in Emacs 24.5,
> > not in the more recent releases/builds.
>
> That could be, but I guess it means you reported the bug from a binary
> other than the one where the problem happened?
No. I reported it from the Emacs 26 RC1, and the problem
happened in that version. And I tested it with `emacs -Q'
in that version. I likely reported it (M-x report-emacs-bug)
using my setup, but with the same binary that I tested using
emacs -Q. And I tested using emacs -Q also in Emacs 25.3.1,
24.5, 24.4, 23.4, and even 22.3 and 20.
> > 2. I'm sure I tested those multiple builds, using `emacs -Q',
> > going back to see whether it ever worked and, if so, in
> > what release it became broken. IIRC, found that prior to
> > Emacs 24 those terms were not links; in Emacs 24.4 the
> > links worked correctly; and starting with Emacs 24.5,
> > through 27 (3rd snapshot) the links were broken.
> >
> > 3. I don't know how or why I saw different behavior then
> > than now, when I retest.
>
> We've been through that before.
Have we? Please tell me how what I saw is possible, in
that case.
> May I suggest that next time this happens you keep notes
> about the exact steps you took while reproducing the problem?
>
> > I don't know what you mean,
> > about somehow reading Info files that didn't come with
> > the same binary. How would that even happen?
>
> It depends on how your system is configured wrt multiple Emacs
> versions installed on it, and in particular how you invoke Info. If
> you just type "C-h i" or "C-h r", the Info manual you get depends on
> whether you keep the share/info directories of different versions
> separate or not.
They are all separate. Each Emacs version/release is in
a separate directory/folder, and all of it is there, in
the original subdirs (bin, etc, include,lib, libexec,
share, ssl). All I do is extract the zip file
obtained from GNU Emacs (e.g. P. Lord's snapshots). I
make no changes to the directories or their files.
(Even with my own setup I make no such changes - no
changes to the distributed files and their directories.
But with my own setup I do make changes to some Info
functions etc.)
So I repeat the question, how could it happen that I
would read an Info file that didn't come with the
current binary, when using emacs -Q?
Unless there is some kind of cache file that Emacs
uses for Info that is outside that directory, I don't
see how different versions could show the same Info
manual version when each is started with emacs -Q.
> Also, "C-h i" and "C-h r" go to different places by
> default. This is why I always use "C-u C-h i", and then specify the
> Info file that corresponds to the Emacs version I'm running.
I used `C-h r' to simplify the repro recipe. If invoked
from emacs -Q, how can that go elsewhere than the Emacs
manual for that binary?
> > Sorry for any confusion. I don't really understand what's
> > causing the mixup in behavior, but I'm sure that I tested
> > each of the releases 24.5, 25.3.1, and 26 using `emacs -Q'.
> > But I confirm that doing that again now I don't see the
> > problem except in 24.5.
>
> Then I guess we can close this bug.
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2018-04-12 15:53 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2018-04-12 16:43 ` bug#31130: 26; Regression: intra-glossary links broken in Emacs manual Eli Zaretskii
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2018-04-12 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2018-04-12 14:42 ` Drew Adams
2018-04-12 15:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-12 16:16 ` Drew Adams
2018-04-12 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-11 21:37 Drew Adams
2018-04-12 8:21 ` Robert Pluim
2018-04-12 11:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
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