From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17685: 24.3.91.1; help-C-file-name failes to create temp buffer " *DOC*" Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 07:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2d6909e1-e3bc-4fe7-978e-f08cdf3a7827@default> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401890968 7324 80.91.229.3 (4 Jun 2014 14:09:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 14:09:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17685@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , Stefan Guath Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 04 16:09:21 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WsBsX-0006dh-Gb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 16:09:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33632 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsBsX-0007qB-05 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:09:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53107) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsBsM-0007oJ-SY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:09:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsBsF-0003cI-3B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:09:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:45019) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsBsE-0003cD-W7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:09:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WsBsE-0004gX-80 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:09:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 14:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17685 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17685-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17685.140189090017932 (code B ref 17685); Wed, 04 Jun 2014 14:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17685) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jun 2014 14:08:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43894 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WsBrX-0004f9-I7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:08:19 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:38895) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WsBrV-0004et-BV for 17685@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 10:08:17 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s54E87xc018174 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 4 Jun 2014 14:08:08 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s54E86Q7019060 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 4 Jun 2014 14:08:07 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0020.oracle.com (abhmp0020.oracle.com [141.146.116.26]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s54E86mK019051; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 14:08:06 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:89978 Archived-At: > > emacs -Q > > (find-lisp-object-file-name 'visible-bell 'defvar) ;visible-bell is jus= t > > an example and can be replaced with any variable. > > RESULT: C-source > > EXPECTED RESULT: "src/dispnew.c" >=20 > Here's the reason for the behavior: > the DOC file is moderately large, so we don't want to load it into > memory just because the user did C-h v visible-bell RET. >=20 > So we only populate the *DOC* buffer when the user actually clicks on > the "C-source" link to jump to the source code. And once the buffer is > populated, then there's no reason not to use it, so if *DOC* exists then > we do use it. Is this behavior new (e.g. since 24.3)? Do you think it might be related to bug #17564: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D17564 (That report is about `C-source' being passed as the FILE-NAME arg to `help-fns--autoloaded-p'.) emacs -Q (fset 'ORIG-top-level (symbol-function 'top-level)) (defun top-level () (interactive) (ORIG-top-level)) C-h f top-level Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument arrayp C-source) file-truename(C-source) ...