From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#44929: 28.0.50; Info-next-reference skips next reference Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 12:10:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2cb435b4-7de8-4783-9830-44195c111aca@default> References: <87360tjnht.fsf@gmx.net> <83h7p9mfl8.fsf@gnu.org> <87tut9i7fa.fsf@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18377"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 44929-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stephen Berman , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 28 21:12:11 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kj6Zm-0004hL-V5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sat, 28 Nov 2020 20:11:00 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 0ASKAEC3011317; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 20:11:00 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 353ck997hb-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 28 Nov 2020 20:10:59 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0001.oracle.com (abhmp0001.oracle.com [141.146.116.7]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 0ASKAwE8026985; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 20:10:59 GMT In-Reply-To: <87tut9i7fa.fsf@gmx.net> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5071.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9819 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011280129 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9819 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 malwarescore=0 bulkscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxlogscore=999 suspectscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 impostorscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011280129 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:194506 Archived-At: > > AFAIU, your expectation is wrong: TAB runs the command > > Info-next-reference, where the "next" part means "not the current > > one". For the "current" reference, press RET. >=20 > I didn't know that RET works anywhere on the line (or lines) of the > menu item, not just on the link, and it never occurred to me to try. How about improving `C-h k RET' here, to let users know that? Neither the command name nor the doc string really suggests that. IOW, can we please elaborate about "near point"? What's more, though some of the doc string says "near point", other parts say "on". "If point is on a reference..." "If point is in a menu item..." And this mistakenly says that "point" is "on", or "in" something, whereas point is a position, not something that is at, on, or in something else. It's the other way around: something is _at_ a position (such as point).