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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'martin rudalics'" <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 11939@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus whenit	calls	`list-processes'
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:08:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2F76545DBD0C4F199A60F4B750709112@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <501175C9.3090803@gmx.at>

> I see.  But then where do you see a problem if your function prompts
> with the current buffer for killing?  

In the scenario I described - see my previous descriptions, but here is a
summary of what I did (before):

C-x C-c, reply "no"

C-x k, with the default being *shell* (even though frame *Process List* was on
top and had its title bar highlighted).  Reply "yes" to killing the processes.

C-x k, wanting to kill *Process List* - see previous descriptions for the
problems here.

But in the latest test, where I did only the `redirect-*', the default buffer to
kill was ALWAYS " *Minibuf-0*".  It's not a problem, in the sense that focus is
at least in the minibuffer frame and I can therefore choose not to use the
default.  (In my setup, I automatically have the default inserted in the
minibuffer, but I can easily remove it.)

> Do you ever want to kill the minibuffer's buffer?

No, never.

> If not, your function should provide an
> appropriate workaround default just as `call-interactively' does.

Well OK, I suppose - I can certainly try to do that.

But I have never had to do it before.  Obviously, if the right thing to do is to
work around this hiccup then I can and might try to do that.  And as I said:

>>> Or as a workaround I can explicitly select the frame of the
>>> buffer I want to kill - e.g., click the title bar of frame *shell*.
>>> After I do that, that buffer becomes the default value for C-x k.

But the point was that the minibuffer buffer was the (current-buffer) here,
suggesting to me that the minibuffer frame (and its buffer) was selected.

Is that TRT?  I didn't think so.  I didn't think that just calling `redirect-*'
would/should also select the frame and its buffer.  That is why I said this:

>>> IOW, it seems that not only is the input focus redirected 
>>> to the minibuffer frame, but also the current buffer is
>>> changed to *Minibuf-0*.  And if I do `M-:
>>> (current-buffer)' I do get *Minibuf-0*.  Is it normal for 
>>> frame-focus redirection to change the current buffer also?
>>> That does not seem right to me.

None of that has to do with my `C-x k' command, I believe.  AFAIK, I do not
select the minibuffer frame or buffer.  I speculated that perhaps the C code for
read-from-minibuffer does, but I don't know that.






  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-26 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-13 18:00 bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when it calls `list-processes' Drew Adams
2012-07-14 13:27 ` martin rudalics
2012-07-14 14:51   ` Drew Adams
2012-07-14 16:19     ` martin rudalics
2012-07-14 17:12       ` Drew Adams
2012-07-15 12:59         ` martin rudalics
2012-07-15 15:06           ` Drew Adams
2012-07-15 16:08             ` martin rudalics
2012-07-15 16:43               ` Drew Adams
2012-07-16  9:12                 ` martin rudalics
2012-07-16 14:23                   ` Drew Adams
2012-07-16 16:07                     ` martin rudalics
2012-07-16 16:36                       ` Drew Adams
2012-07-16 17:04                         ` martin rudalics
2012-07-16 18:22                           ` Drew Adams
2012-07-16 23:26                             ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes' Drew Adams
2012-07-17  9:50                               ` martin rudalics
2012-07-17 15:21                                 ` Drew Adams
2012-07-18 16:16                                   ` martin rudalics
2012-07-19  3:56                                     ` Drew Adams
2012-07-19 10:42                                       ` martin rudalics
2012-07-19 17:45                                         ` Drew Adams
2012-07-21 11:02                                           ` martin rudalics
2012-07-21 18:13                                             ` Drew Adams
2012-07-22  8:49                                               ` martin rudalics
     [not found]                                                 ` <ED063FDC2B7C4B2A9CB2BDADAE2F00A2@us.orac! ! le.com>
2012-07-22 16:55                                                 ` Drew Adams
2012-07-23  9:34                                                   ` martin rudalics
2012-07-23 16:12                                                     ` Drew Adams
2012-07-17  9:50                             ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when it calls `list-processes' martin rudalics
2012-07-17 14:22                               ` Drew Adams
2012-07-18 16:16                                 ` martin rudalics
2012-07-18 17:23                                   ` Drew Adams
2012-07-19 10:41                                     ` martin rudalics
2012-07-19 17:43                                       ` Drew Adams
2012-07-21 11:01                                         ` martin rudalics
2012-07-21 18:13                                           ` Drew Adams
2012-07-19  3:54                                   ` Drew Adams
2012-07-19 10:42                                     ` martin rudalics
2012-07-19 17:43                                       ` Drew Adams
2012-07-21 11:01                                         ` martin rudalics
2012-07-21 18:13                                           ` Drew Adams
2012-07-22  8:48                                             ` martin rudalics
2012-07-22 16:46                                               ` Drew Adams
2012-07-22 17:06                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                   ` <8C! 6D5530BE0@[87.69.210.75! ]>
     [not found]                                                   ` <83! 4n@[87.69.210.75]>
2012-07-22 19:42                                                   ` Drew Adams
2012-07-22 20:49                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-22 21:01                                                       ` Drew Adams
2012-07-22 21:07                                                         ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus whenit " Drew Adams
2012-07-22 21:21                                                           ` Daniel Colascione
2012-07-23  1:13                                                             ` Drew Adams
2012-07-22 21:16                                                         ` Drew Adams
2012-07-23 17:33                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-23 18:00                                                             ` Drew Adams
2012-07-23 16:04                                                         ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when it " Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-23 16:28                                                           ` Drew Adams
2012-07-23 17:58                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-23 18:29                                                               ` Drew Adams
2012-07-23 19:30                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-24 12:47                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2012-07-25 15:42                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2012-07-25 16:17                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-07-25 16:42                                                                         ` Drew Adams
2012-07-25 17:28                                                                           ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus whenit " Drew Adams
2012-07-26  9:44                                                                             ` martin rudalics
     [not found]                                                                               ` <32A934E820BA4853B84229C32F7145A1@us.oracle! ! .com>
2012-07-26 13:51                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2012-07-26 16:05                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2012-07-26 16:21                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2012-07-26 16:52                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <2F76545DBD0C4F199A60F4! B750709112@us.oracle.com>
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <FBD01B85621E4CB5AF89A744D72DA935@us.oracle.! ! com>
2012-07-26 17:08                                                                                       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2012-07-26 17:41                                                                                         ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focuswhenit " Drew Adams
2012-07-27  6:33                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2012-07-28 15:29                                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2012-07-29 13:56                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2012-07-28 15:31                                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2012-07-29 13:56                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2012-07-27  6:33                                                                                         ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus whenit " martin rudalics
2012-07-28 15:29                                                                                           ` Drew Adams
2012-07-29 13:55                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2012-07-29 16:26                                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2012-07-29 17:08                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
     [not found]                                                                                                   ` <F930898D9C4E4DC295235DD8!A4B7BFFE@us.oracle.com>
     [not found]                                                                                                   ` <F930898D9C4E4DC295235DD8! A4B7BFFE@us.oracle.com>
     [not found]                                                                                                     ` <F1206E98AF6C40E8BBDD20894A9BC0D2@us.oracle.co! ! m>
2012-07-29 18:01                                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2012-07-30  9:13                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2012-08-01 16:34                                                                                                       ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                                                                                                   ` <F930898D9C4E4DC295235DD8! A4B7BFFE@us.oracle.co m>
2012-07-29 19:26                                                                                                     ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focuswhenit " Drew Adams
2012-07-30  9:13                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2012-08-01 16:34                                                                                                         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                                                                                                           ` <501BAAB0.1020!807@gmx! .at>
2012-08-03 10:40                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2012-08-03 16:46                                                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2012-08-03 17:00                                                                                                               ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focuswhenitcalls `list-processes' Drew Adams
2012-08-04 13:45                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
     [not found]                                                                                                                   ` <7E4F337C7F6A4B8281!ABE6C82 A8CA70E@us.oracle.com>
     [not found]                                                                                                                   ` <7E4F337C7F6A4B8281! ABE6C82A8CA70E@us.oracle.com>
     [not found]                                                                                                                     ` <B7E92FDE8CFC4F798AEEB7CBFEFA933D@us.orac! ! le.com>
2012-08-05 22:32                                                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2012-08-05 23:10                                                                                                                     ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focuswhenitcalls`list-processes' Drew Adams
2012-08-06 15:29                                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2012-08-06 20:56                                                                                                                         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                                                                                                                           ` < 5022103E.6060502@gmx.at>
2012-08-07  8:58                                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2012-08-08  7:07                                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2012-08-08 16:19                                                                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2012-08-08 16:32                                                                                                                               ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibufferfocuswhenitcalls`list-processes' Drew Adams
2012-08-08 16:38                                                                                                                                 ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' losesminibufferfocuswhenitcalls`list-processes' Drew Adams
2012-08-09  8:45                                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2012-08-10 17:47                                                                                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2012-08-11  9:31                                                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2012-08-11 16:58                                                                                                                                         ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                                                                                                                                           ` <502! 785DF.1040200@gmx.at>
     [not found]                                                                                                                                             ` <A5E13547EC48444192A20752F3F4FAF9@us.oracle.com! >
     [not found]                                                                                                                                           ` <502!785DF.1040200@gmx.at>
     [not found]                                                                                                                                             ` <A5E13547EC48444192A20752F3F4FAF9@us.oracle.com!>
     [not found]                                                                                                                                               ` <5028! A8FD.60705@gmx .at>
2012-08-12 10:30                                                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2012-08-12 15:03                                                                                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2012-08-13  7:13                                                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2012-08-13 13:51                                                                                                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2012-08-13 16:23                                                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2012-08-13 22:20                                                                                                                                                   ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs'losesminibufferfocuswhenitcalls`list-processes' Drew Adams
2012-08-14  9:10                                                                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2012-08-14 14:36                                                                                                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2012-08-14 16:04                                                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2012-08-14 17:39                                                                                                                                                           ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                                                                                                                                                             ` <502B7AC2.70! 004@gmx. at>
2012-08-15 10:32                                                                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2012-08-26  4:11                                                                                                                                                               ` Drew Adams
2012-08-26  4:31                                                                                                                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2012-08-09  8:45                                                                                                                                 ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibufferfocuswhenitcalls`list-processes' martin rudalics
2012-08-09 21:53                                                                                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2012-08-10  9:33                                                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2012-08-09  8:44                                                                                                                               ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focuswhenitcalls`list-processes' martin rudalics
2012-08-09 21:53                                                                                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2012-08-06 15:29                                                                                                                     ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focuswhenitcalls `list-processes' martin rudalics
2012-08-06 20:55                                                                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2012-08-07  8:58                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2012-08-07 13:39                                                                                                                           ` Drew Adams
2012-08-04 13:44                                                                                                               ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focuswhenit calls `list-processes' martin rudalics
2012-08-06  1:11                                                                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2012-08-06 15:29                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2012-08-06 21:05                                                                                                                     ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                                                                                                                       ` <50! 20D8B6.5000701@gmx.at>
     [not found]                                                                                                                         ` <254E2E4A521F4250A06349AD44BEEE63@us.oracle.co! ! m>
2012-08-07  8:58                                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2012-08-07 13:59                                                                                                                         ` Drew Adams
2012-08-08  7:07                                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
     [not found]                                                                                                                             ` <E0132113E8CD4470A74D81C04D74585C@us.orac! ! le.com>
2012-08-08 16:18                                                                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2012-08-09  8:44                                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2012-08-09 21:54                                                                                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2012-07-26 15:48                                                                           ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when it " martin rudalics
2012-07-26 15:52                                                                             ` Drew Adams
2012-07-23  9:34                                                 ` martin rudalics
2012-07-23 16:12                                                   ` Drew Adams
2012-07-24 12:46                                                     ` martin rudalics
2012-07-25 15:02                                                       ` Drew Adams
2012-07-26  9:43                                                         ` martin rudalics
2012-07-16 14:52                   ` Drew Adams
2012-09-05 14:30 ` martin rudalics
2012-09-05 14:35   ` Drew Adams
2012-10-03 16:18     ` bug#11939: 24.1; `save-buffers-kill-emacs' loses minibuffer focus when itcalls `list-processes' Drew Adams
2012-10-05  7:04       ` martin rudalics

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