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[71.174.239.102]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x5-20020a05620a258500b006a75a0ffc97sm13621055qko.3.2022.06.20.15.04.43 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 20 Jun 2022 15:04:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86o7ynmgiy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.100.31) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:234919 Archived-At: > On Jun 20, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Juri Linkov wrote: > >>>> But if the majority will prefer to remove it, then I could commit such >>>> a patch. So we need just one additional vote that supports this >>>> change :) >>> >>> I vote for keeping the message, but I have no strong opinion. >> >> Why though? How does it help me as a user? And if I do need this >> information for some reason, why can't I just flip the mode off and on >> again? > > Every minor mode displays a message, e.g.: > > M-x delete-selection-mode > Delete-Selection mode enabled > > M-x electric-pair-mode > Electric-Pair mode enabled My original report was about enabling these in init.el and seeing the message in the *Messages* buffer. I have the following in my init: (size-indication-mode) (column-number-mode) (show-paren-mode) (recentf-mode) (which-function-mode) (global-hl-line-mode) (context-menu-mode) ; new in Emacs 28 (global-so-long-mode) (repeat-mode) ; new in Emacs 28 Of the above, only recentf-mode and repeat-mode write to the *Messages* buffer on startup. I added electric-pair-mode to my init and it did not write to *Messages* though if I toggle it interactively with M-x it does output (I assume to the echo area). Howard