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From: James Nguyen <jamesn@fastmail.com>
To: Ken Brown <kbrown@cornell.edu>
Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 27511@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#27511: 26.0.50; emacsclient requires file argument
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 09:48:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2DC16056-CE99-48EA-BBCE-046F349A4483@fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <be299ec3-0aab-36a1-b74a-c25c4ff5390a@cornell.edu>

@Noam
I’d like it to switch to the scratch buffer if anything and to create a new one if it doesn’t exist. I should be able to jigger something up with the —eval option on emacsclient though.

Thanks.

@Ken

Why would you find it surprising? Personally, I like the DWIM style of many emacs commands. If I ever type ‘emacsclient’ and press <RET>, DWIM suggests I’m trying to connect to an instance of an Emacs server.

I don’t think I’d ever expect an error message to show up in that case. Imagine typing ‘vim’ and being forced to specify a file. (It’s not lost on my you’ve indicated they have separate purposes.)

At the very least, connecting to the server and doing nothing (similar to what Noam posted a few messages back) should be similar in spirit to what you’ve just said.


> On Jun 29, 2017, at 7:11 AM, Ken Brown <kbrown@cornell.edu> wrote:
> 
> On 6/29/2017 8:32 AM, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net wrote> James Nguyen <jamesn@fastmail.com> writes:
>>> That snip you sent doesn’t work the way I want. It just opens the Gui
>>> Emacs up without opening a new scratch buffer.
>> Oh you want a *new* scratch buffer?  As in, you end up with multiple
>> scratch buffers if you run emacsclient several times?
>>> At this point, my takeaway is that we think this is 1. not a bug and
>>> 2. unlikely to have the default change (emacsclient behaving similarly
>>> in spirit to emacs)
>>> 
>>> I will just have to write a bash function that wraps emacsclient and
>>> check for the file arg (or lackof) myself.
>> Yeah, changing the defaults is tricky because you have to get a lot of
>> people to agree on what the new default should be.  Although it seems to
>> me that the current default of just printing an error message is not
>> especially useful for anyone...
> 
> The purpose of emacsclient is to contact an emacs server and give it some action to perform (visit a file, open a new frame, evaluate some lisp, ...).  If you run emacsclient with no arguments, you're not specifying any action.  I can think of two possibilities for what emacsclient should do in that case: (a) Silently do nothing.  (b) Print an error message.  I would find it very surprising if emacsclient were to tell the server to create a new buffer when I've specified no action.
> 
> Ken
> 






  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-29 16:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-28  2:03 bug#27511: 26.0.50; emacsclient requires file argument James Nguyen
2017-06-28 14:45 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-06-28 15:00   ` James Nguyen
2017-06-28 17:03     ` Ken Brown
2017-06-28 17:22       ` James Nguyen
2017-06-28 17:35         ` Noam Postavsky
2017-06-28 23:49           ` James Nguyen
2017-06-29  1:13             ` npostavs
2017-06-29  3:35               ` James Nguyen
2017-06-29 12:32                 ` npostavs
2017-06-29 14:11                   ` Ken Brown
2017-06-29 16:48                     ` James Nguyen [this message]
2017-06-29 18:11                       ` Ken Brown
2017-06-30  1:06                         ` James Nguyen

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