From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5529: `uniquify-buffer-name-style' doesn't exist Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 10:37:24 -0800 Message-ID: <2A67ED58EE6049D085C4F7413DC8DF74@us.oracle.com> References: <20100205151859.GA7866@muc.de><e01d8a51002050756v21f49824xaeb9cc5ba8ef048e@mail.gmail.com> <20100205181742.GB7866@muc.de><e01d8a51002051018p3aeafadcoa428dcc405a2e407@mail.gmail.com> <20100206181748.GB2157@muc.de> <e01d8a51002061018n31bc98a4lb8bbf06d90f71f4@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265482689 20306 80.91.229.12 (6 Feb 2010 18:58:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 18:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 5529@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Lennart Borgman'" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>, "'Alan Mackenzie'" <acm@muc.de> Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 06 19:58:04 2010 Return-path: <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1Ndpr0-0001eg-Af for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:58:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57174 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ndpqz-0002yj-Ss for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:58:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ndpqm-0002sn-W1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:57:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=40347 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ndpql-0002rn-Tn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:57:47 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <Debian-debbugs@debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Ndpqj-00029J-Kw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:57:47 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52727) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <Debian-debbugs@debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1Ndpqi-00028Y-LF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:57:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <Debian-debbugs@debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1NdpXe-0000m1-Aq; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:38:02 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <handler.5529.B5529.12654814662963@debbugs.gnu.org> Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 5529 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 5529-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5529.12654814662963 (code B ref 5529); Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:38:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5529) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2010 18:37:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1NdpXM-0000lk-0e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:37:46 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com ([141.146.126.233]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <drew.adams@oracle.com>) id 1NdpX7-0000lX-S8 for 5529@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:37:42 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o16IbNLM012409 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 6 Feb 2010 18:37:24 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o16INBrg020137; Sat, 6 Feb 2010 18:37:22 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt002.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 15711231265481441; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:37:21 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.175.198.70) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:37:21 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <e01d8a51002061018n31bc98a4lb8bbf06d90f71f4@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcqnWhhLWBkNcwRWQnezzlgnMPNJEwAAHy1g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4B6DB6E2.0196:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:38:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/bug-gnu-emacs> List-Post: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs>, <mailto:bug-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:34932 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs/34932> > We can autoload defcustoms, but there are so many so we probably do > not want that. There are about 7000 and autoloading them all will take > some computer resources. How many resources? Just what is involved? The point of autoload is to load just a pointer to a target, rather than loading the target itself. Why would 7000 additional autoloads be a big runtime or load-time burden? I'm not claiming it is not a big burden. I'm asking why it is. I don't see why it would be so costly for Emacs to record 7000 vars and their target files for loading. I haven't seen any explanation or cost analysis so far. All I've seen is Stefan screaming, essentially, "NO! DON'T!!!". I'm not saying he's wrong. But what's wrong with seeing some analysis of the cost involved?