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[108.26.204.101]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i19-20020ac85c13000000b002f33d140da9sm3754892qti.20.2022.04.21.07.33.57 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Apr 2022 07:33:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83tuamr4fy.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:230375 Archived-At: On Apr 21, 2022, at 8:44 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 >> From: Howard Melman >> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 08:06:14 -0400 >> Cc: K=C3=A9vin Le Gouguec , >> 55027@debbugs.gnu.org >>=20 >> On Apr 21, 2022, at 2:07 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>>=20 >>> I fixed it in a safer way on the release branch, thanks. >>=20 >> Why did you keep it in the python-flymake group in addition to the >> python group? >=20 > Because it was there in Emacs 28.1. I didn't want to make > incompatible changes on the release branch. I wouldn't call a change in what group an option appears in in an interactive customize session an incompatibility. The change in group has nothing to do with how it's set or used. >> It has nothing to do with flymake. =20 >>=20 >> Since it's a new option, you're just extending the amount of time >> for people to get confused by it. >=20 > Confused in what way? How can the fact that an option appears in an > additional customization group confuse someone? Because it will still appear in the python-flymake group and it has nothing to do with flymake. Anyone looking at the python-flymake group will be confused as to why it's there.=20 It was a mistake for it to be in that group in the first place, why = prolong it? =20 I don't see why a change in which group an option appears in can only happen in a major release. Fixing it sooner means fewer people will be affected by any incompatibility. Howard=