From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21969: VC opens new window to display minimal messages Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:58:47 -0500 Message-ID: <2A1378C2-1A21-4CE4-B7A0-664C86FE5ABB@gmail.com> References: <906518FC-CA8A-408D-88CC-A44553EB66C6@gmail.com> <56510676.2010305@yandex.ru> <2DD7D456-BD0F-47A7-9138-E771094E169E@gmail.com> <565119F6.9050008@yandex.ru> <0BD66465-870D-44F0-9BB4-8141909FF652@gmail.com> <83poz22efz.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.0 \(3094\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448211568 19885 80.91.229.3 (22 Nov 2015 16:59:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21969@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 22 17:59:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a0Xyt-0006r7-MT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 17:59:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56683 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0Xyo-0005Ge-Fg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:59:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60709) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0Xyl-0005G4-7W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:59:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0Xyg-0007sB-7c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:59:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:58700) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0Xyg-0007s7-4e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:59:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a0Xyg-0004Vy-1B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:59:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: David Reitter Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21969 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21969-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21969.144821153117334 (code B ref 21969); Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:59:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21969) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Nov 2015 16:58:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48408 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a0XyU-0004VV-Qg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:58:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qg0-f43.google.com ([209.85.192.43]:35307) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a0XyT-0004VM-Kt for 21969@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:58:50 -0500 Original-Received: by qgec40 with SMTP id c40so102291315qge.2 for <21969@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 08:58:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=rDksNQLwwz17jwwEANF7pJC0Hzp1YquVtpSi1v/JqYU=; b=YuPmD7cQNXK2HuR4he1iJvz25RjzgFCtMwkUqduGxV1ZREMH5qE2KLzidxH6jNpffF 10740siZ+e3l9sGWsiIIwYnxj/sVChiH7CBR8D5JFMKaSkIaj7h1EVo/1xRmQtG3Krpa mpbevMeyM3dFCauwx+mErP7grUGOIt35m/FvoF/4jRt89bkPZTA2Gknvr/AxsjMT2Rgr xyjT4D9bcbiROYQop/W8XvMfYb2qbDJI/oeszp3vhdKqIBD4B1w1pis9epz54fvwgQpb xiYUCNv0qVWvbEOpJN44WYGj2EmoWCjDYiSZorRvICnFrsuO0ljLX+QS6vCaDgmrgf6o lLJw== X-Received: by 10.140.227.16 with SMTP id x16mr24422188qhb.46.1448211528991; Sun, 22 Nov 2015 08:58:48 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [10.0.1.23] (c-71-58-212-112.hsd1.pa.comcast.net. [71.58.212.112]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 81sm2059587qhx.15.2015.11.22.08.58.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 22 Nov 2015 08:58:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83poz22efz.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3094) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:109076 Archived-At: On Nov 22, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > FWIW, I think changing it back to synchronous would be a step > backward. =46rom a technical perspective, perhaps, but not for the user interface = in the situation that I described (error message / no changes). As a user, I would like an echo area message if there are no changes, = and a popup window otherwise. How that is implemented is secondary. Now, this brings up another idea: Why not do a fast synchronous status = check (if we don=E2=80=99t know) to decide whether to call =E2=80=9Cdiff=E2= =80=9D asynchronously? This would be the alternative to doing an async call and opening the = window only after a timeout or when the first output arrives. > And I also won't like the appearing and disappearing window. Just > using the popup window always sounds like a better solution. I think we=E2=80=99ve discarded the appearing/disappearing window idea.