From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29465: 25.3; Confusing message for dired-do-shell-command substitution Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:20:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <29b407d1-e1f6-4676-a686-ccdf19af8bb4@default> References: <83vahv67eb.fsf@gnu.org> <87fu8zukmb.fsf@gmail.com> <83609u5pyr.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1511929275 9022 195.159.176.226 (29 Nov 2017 04:21:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 04:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 29465@debbugs.gnu.org, Tino Calancha To: Allen Li , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 29 05:21:10 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eJtrv-0001ou-VK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 05:21:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41226 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eJts3-0007Fu-32 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 23:21:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39891) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eJtrx-0007Fe-1f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 23:21:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eJtrs-000550-33 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 23:21:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:55082) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eJtrr-00054v-VM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 23:21:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eJtrq-0008CD-Ge for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 23:21:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2017 04:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29465 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 29465-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29465.151192925131466 (code B ref 29465); Wed, 29 Nov 2017 04:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29465) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2017 04:20:51 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35530 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eJtrf-0008BS-G3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 23:20:51 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:27489) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eJtrd-0008BD-Sg for 29465@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 23:20:50 -0500 Original-Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id vAT4Kg3j011583 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 29 Nov 2017 04:20:42 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id vAT4Kf2H030341 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 29 Nov 2017 04:20:41 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id vAT4Kdw9008892; Wed, 29 Nov 2017 04:20:39 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4615.0 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:140535 Archived-At: I have not been following this thread, so apologies if this doesn't help or isn't very relevant. IF we feel it helps a user to prompt about something, and IF we feel there is a possibility that some users might not understand the prompt, in spite of our best efforts to come up with a good prompt, and IF we feel that understanding the prompt is important, THEN the doc string should make clear whatever it is that it is important that users understand about that prompting. It's quite possible for a user not to understand even a good prompt. S?he should be able to get the point by doing `C-h f', in that case.