From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' returns error when called with arguments 'number t) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 12:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <295cccf3-bb80-4cde-bcdb-5137333cc1ed@default> References: <0a68c2ae-0940-4e2c-8b3c-1faceb45c43c@default> <6d4d9469-5698-d522-ac3d-3f540b1c14b3@easy-emacs.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478287719 2823 195.159.176.226 (4 Nov 2016 19:28:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 19:28:39 +0000 (UTC) To: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= , 21391@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 04 20:28:35 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c2k9q-0005lK-Ha for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 20:28:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40465 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c2k9t-0000qj-1D for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 15:28:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48834) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c2k9l-0000pa-Lm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 15:28:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c2k9i-0006ZU-Iw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 15:28:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:57895) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c2k9i-0006ZA-FU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 15:28:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c2k9i-0004li-70 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 15:28:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2016 19:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21391 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21391-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21391.147828765418292 (code B ref 21391); Fri, 04 Nov 2016 19:28:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21391) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2016 19:27:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45061 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c2k9G-0004kx-7Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 15:27:34 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:44070) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c2k9E-0004kg-Im for 21391@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2016 15:27:32 -0400 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id uA4JRPLs003028 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 4 Nov 2016 19:27:25 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id uA4JROGb005154 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 4 Nov 2016 19:27:25 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0019.oracle.com (abhmp0019.oracle.com [141.146.116.25]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id uA4JRONG016293; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 19:27:24 GMT In-Reply-To: <6d4d9469-5698-d522-ac3d-3f540b1c14b3@easy-emacs.de> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125349 Archived-At: > > Tino is right. The mistake behind the handling of optional arg > > NO-PROPERTIES (which was added in Emacs 24.4) is to assume that > > `thing-at-point' returns a string. This is a common > > misconception. It can return anything that Emacs Lisp can > > return. >=20 > Is there a need to pick symbols from a buffer as symbols? > Don't know. My use-case is editing and strings are the suitable > format. Of course there is. And not just symbols, but numbers, lists... People too often misunderstand thing-at-point as being only something to grab text at point to serve as a default value for reading input. There are any number of reasons to determine whether there is a thing of a given type at point, and to retrieve it if so.