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Fri, 24 Apr 2020 19:40:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <969b3497-0afd-d104-6792-d744d31548fa@cs.ucla.edu> Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:178961 Archived-At: On 25.04.2020 05:21, Paul Eggert wrote: > That depends on what other programming languages we're talking about. The > current use of 'constant' in the manual corresponds reasonably closely to > 'const' objects in C and C++. Since we're talking about non-scalar values, do you mean constant pointers to (generally) mutable objects? Or a constant aggregate of mutable objects? When a value is constant in C or C++, you can't change it.