From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6616: S-TAB is mismapped in the *Help* buffer Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 11:59:18 -0700 Message-ID: <28C12A395EEA4885B8502ED8CE9AF52C@us.oracle.com> References: <4C3AB426.2040500@gmail.com><83pqyssj5a.fsf@gnu.org><83mxtwsei9.fsf@gnu.org><4C3BFCB6.8000002@gmail.com> <75F343B7B5464F16B7E14D0F0E18BC5F@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1280690256 32347 80.91.229.12 (1 Aug 2010 19:17:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 19:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Adrian Robert' , 6616@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Stefan Monnier'" , "'Paul Griepentrog'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 01 21:17:35 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ofe2Q-0005tW-8E for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 21:17:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54447 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ofdu8-00072S-P7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 15:09:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34681 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OfdtE-0006ZC-8n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 15:08:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfdtD-0006HY-3r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 15:08:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41854) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfdtD-0006HU-2T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 15:08:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfdlT-0004S3-Fn; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 15:00:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2010 19:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6616 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6616-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6616.128068915117070 (code B ref 6616); Sun, 01 Aug 2010 19:00:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6616) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Aug 2010 18:59:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ofdkc-0004RH-Oc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:59:10 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ofdkb-0004R9-Hp for 6616@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:59:09 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id o71IxTC4032360 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 1 Aug 2010 18:59:30 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id o71IxR3J013580; Sun, 1 Aug 2010 18:59:27 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt015.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 456015911280689159; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 11:59:19 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.222.80) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 11:59:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <75F343B7B5464F16B7E14D0F0E18BC5F@us.oracle.com> Thread-Index: AcsxDZtMahAGaKnqRyWZBYW2AzVYBwAdfQGAAAniXcA= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Source-IP: acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090205.4C55C411.008F:SCFMA4539814,ss=1,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2010 15:00:03 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:39109 Archived-At: I probably muddied the waters with my previous post. I was concerned about our default-binding S-tab unnecessarily to a _command_. But I see now that that is not what you are discussing. I have no problem in general with treating S-tab and backtab as the same key, for the reason Paul mentioned: there is no physical backtab key (typically). Sorry for the noise. I was thinking that this was about binding S-tab to a backward navigation _command_, such as we do now in Info. My bad.