From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#28182: maybe implement CTRL++ to zoom text Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 07:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <27bdd6b6-c8a8-44e5-a85d-775892e91bf4@default> References: <<87y3qcs3nf.fsf@jidanni.org>> <<831so3bror.fsf@gnu.org>> <> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1503498640 18905 195.159.176.226 (23 Aug 2017 14:30:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 14:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 28182@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org To: rms@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 23 16:30:31 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dkWfi-0003se-E8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 16:30:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44008 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkWfn-0001w4-KN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 10:30:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39260) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkWfX-0001mh-JV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 10:30:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkWfU-0004xF-8K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 10:30:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:42848) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dkWfU-0004wR-4y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 10:30:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dkWfT-0004BQ-J8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 10:30:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 14:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 28182 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 28182-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B28182.150349857016004 (code B ref 28182); Wed, 23 Aug 2017 14:30:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 28182) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2017 14:29:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51526 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dkWew-0004A4-6A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 10:29:30 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:19531) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dkWeu-00049q-AQ for 28182@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 10:29:28 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id v7NETKTr023689 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 23 Aug 2017 14:29:21 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v7NETK3p024361 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 23 Aug 2017 14:29:20 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id v7NETKq0030376; Wed, 23 Aug 2017 14:29:20 GMT In-Reply-To: <> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6774.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:136095 Archived-At: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >=20 > > Did you try "C-x C-+"? >=20 > I don't think it would occur to people to try that key sequence. > It's not what other programs use. >=20 > How about if we make C-+ and C-- do this, as they do in many > other programs? FWIW - 1. C-- (where it is supported) is the same as M-- and C-M-- (`negative-argument'). 2. Lots of users no doubt bind C-+ (and C-=3D, because =3D is the unshifted + key on many keyboards) for something else. For example, I use C-=3D as a prefix key for comparison operations (e.g. C-=3D b is ediff-buffers, C-=3D d is diff, C-=3D e is ediff-files, and C-=3D w is compare-windows). I've suggested that Emacs do the same out of the box, =3D being a good mnemonic for comparison. (Yes, I know that existing user bindings don't count for much. Just mentioning this.) 3. If we were to bind C-- and C-+ to as you suggest then we should at least keep the C-x C-- and C-x C-+ (and C-x C-=3D) bindings as well.